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#31 CharlotteBeer.com

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:48 AM

Hasn't he developed one of the best rushing offenses in the league year after year even with a severely limited passing attack and qb?


I didn't realize he was just our running offensive coordinator. ;)

If you're going to make the argument that Jake handicapped what he could do, then you have to credit Williams and Stewart with doing the opposite.

I think Davidson has certainly contributed to our success on the ground, but I want to see what he can do through the air before I even entertain the idea of Davidson as head coach.

I think most of our success in recent years, especially on the ground, has been a result of our players' ability rather than scheme or coaching.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:52 AM

FWIW: There was some discussion that Davidson doesn't have free rein to run his offense. I wonder if there is any truth to that and what it would look like if he could really do his own thing??

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:53 AM

I think most of our success in recent years, especially on the ground, has been a result of our players' ability rather than scheme or coaching.


So it was Hurney

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:56 AM

FWIW: There was some discussion that Davidson doesn't have free run to run his offense. I wonder if there is any truth to that and what it would look like if he could really do his own thing??


Could be.

For what it's worth, I do think it's a bit telling that no coordinator under Fox save for I think Del Rio has received a significant promotion (and he was here for just a year). I guess the case could be made for McCoy as Denver's offensive coordinator.

There is no John Fox coaching tree. I think we develop coaches about as well as we do wide receivers.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:58 AM

FWIW: There was some discussion that Davidson doesn't have free rein to run his offense. I wonder if there is any truth to that and what it would look like if he could really do his own thing??


Didnt Meat say nothing happens unless ok'd by foxy. Has the playbook changed that much since Davidson came to Carolina?

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:05 AM

Fox intervened and took over meetings from Meeks. Never has happened for Davidson. Not hard to see who may be the HC candidate

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:09 AM

Basing Fox's coaching "legacy" on whoever replaces him is flawed logic. Basing his "legacy" on his predecessors is just as flawed.

It doesn't matter if it's Brian Schottenheimer, Wade Phillips or Jim Zorn- not that I'm saying any of them are viable candidates- but that's the point. A lot of folks here are looking at the obvious possibilities and trying to compare Fox's reign to what the next guy might do or what the last guys really did do.

And, yes, Davidson is nothing more then John Fox in a Dan Henning costume v2.0. One need look no further than what Henning has accomplished in Miami and look at that offense versus what was in Charlotte during his stay. I spent 3 years screaming at Henning and it took one year to realize Davidson is running the same offense Henning did- the John Fox offense.

And for what it's worth, I still believe Jerry Richardson made up his mind last year that Fox was gone and I think he already knows who the next guy is. And I think he had made up his mind when he canned his sons and brought in Morrison. I think the next coach of the Carolina Panthers for the 2012 season is already a done deal, we just don't know who it is yet.

Edited by Anybodyhome, 25 August 2010 - 11:11 AM.


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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:29 AM

Fox could take the entire coaching staff with him.lol


Don't be surprised at all if this happens.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:33 AM

God, just please don't promote Davidson up.


I think I should be offended by that. ;)

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:41 AM

I will say this, Fox is the kind of HC that will take a bad team and make them some what respectable or average. He'll have them hover around the 8-8 mark then have an occasional fluke season where everything bounces the right way and find a way to make the playoffs. However, he will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER be a coach that can make a good team great or an average team more consistent. He could take over a great team like the patriots and he would find some way to make them underacheive. His brand of football is just too stale and too predictable for any team to be consistenly good.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:45 AM

I'm surprised Lovie isn't higher

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:57 AM

I'm surprised Lovie isn't higher


Me too. I'd probably put him at #1. It's a make or break season for him more than anyone else.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 12:11 PM

Promoting Davidson would be one of the dumbest things this team could ever do...so look for it to happen.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 12:24 PM

Hasn't he developed one of the best rushing offenses in the league year after year even with a severely limited passing attack and qb?


credit goes more to Williams and Stewart for that. Put those 2 RBs on any team in the NFL and the offensive coordinator would have a top notch running attack.

Davidson's play calling is also suspect (at least last year). You can go to a handful of games and question it.....take Miami last year. Run game was beasting and he opts to switch things up and go to the biggest liability in the NFL (at the time) and air it out.

maybe that is Davidson...maybe Fox. Whatever it is, offensively there is no coach imo who is impressing the league by what is going on here lately.

Edited by CRA, 25 August 2010 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted 25 August 2010 - 12:57 PM

I think the Panthers are on the coaching hot seat, not Fox. After Fox and his staff leave, we are going to be hard pressed to find a new coach worth a crap.


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