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#91 PantherBob

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:26 PM

Ok this is dumb. John Fox is a good coach but can be stubbornly way to conservative. Fox has 5 years of 8-8 or better, which is good. 7 wins is the least amount of games he's lost, Andy Reid, Bill Bellichick, and a ton of other coaches would love that. We've played in 2 NFC championship games in 3 years. It's not his fault that the owner and GM are tight wads and wont let us get anyone worth a damn to help this year.


I assume you meant to say 9 games is the most amount of games he's lost because he's done it three times. And I can assure you that Reid and Belichick wouldnt trade their win/loss record for Fox's even if you paid them to.

JR went on a spending spree once in 2006 and Fox went 8-8 with that team. He's an average coach that had only a couple of good seasons over an 8 year span.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:28 PM

lest we forget. Had Jim Caldwell not LAID DOWN for the Jets at the end of the season, they wouldn't have even got in playoffs...

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:31 PM

Which part of the saints were 4-8 when we beat them and were the hottest team the last month of the season when they beat the panthers wasnt reality? Like I keep telling you, if you take your head out of Foxs ass once in awhile you might be able to see properly. :D


The part that began with the Saints were the hottest team and manhandled us. First of all they won by 3 points 21-18. Secondly jake threw for over 300 yards and was driving in their territory when they game ended.

Now to your hottest team in the last month. First of all we beat them on December 5th by 11 points 32 to 21 which is because according to you they were in a spiral but then they beat us by three points 4 weeks later and they are the hottest team.

Meanwhile they go 4-1 beating Tampa by 4 points , us by 3 points, Dallas by 14 points and Atlanta by 13. That year Dallas finished 6-10 so they beat 1 winning record team in the last 5 games.

We of course beat them by 11, Tampa by 17, the Rams by 13, lose to Atlanta in the dome 34-31 although Jake throws for 340 yards and Vick runs for 12 yards with less than 2 minutes in the game on the miraculous levitation play from the 5 yard line to win by three. Then we go to new Orleans and we have another close loss to the Saints that could have gone either way.

And they were dominant and we totally were crappy. Couldn't be that they always play the Falcons tough just like for a number of years we always beat Tampa. Yeah no spin there. Except for that one play that I saw in person and still can't believe by Vick, we are 4-1 as well. Yep they were totally dominant and we were totally lucky.

And if you actually talked intelligent football without all the spin and personal insults you wouldn't be a troll and afraid to go to a tailgate where you would be likely tarred and feathered.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:31 PM

lest we forget. Had Jim Caldwell not LAID DOWN for the Jets at the end of the season, they wouldn't have even got in playoffs...


Um...... I think you're in the wrong thread :conf:

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:32 PM

I assume you meant to say 9 games is the most amount of games he's lost because he's done it three times. And I can assure you that Reid and Belichick wouldnt trade their win/loss record for Fox's even if you paid them to.

JR went on a spending spree once in 2006 and Fox went 8-8 with that team. He's an average coach that had only a couple of good seasons over an 8 year span.


Yes I meant 7 wins is the least amount. JR hardly went on a spending spree. We brought in who, Keyshawn? Im pretty sure he wasnt that good then, sounds like more of a bad organizational move then anything. And also Andy Reid and Belichick have HOF quarterbacks. I love Jake, but he isnt near as good as McNabb and Brady. So thats what makes what Fox has done even more special

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:32 PM

oh well...now its out there.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:42 PM

The part that began with the Saints were the hottest team and manhandled us. First of all they won by 3 points 21-18. Secondly jake threw for over 300 yards and was driving in their territory when they game ended.

Now to your hottest team in the last month. First of all we beat them on December 5th by 11 points 32 to 21 which is because according to you they were in a spiral but then they beat us by three points 4 weeks later and they are the hottest team.

Meanwhile they go 4-1 beating Tampa by 4 points , us by 3 points, Dallas by 14 points and Atlanta by 13. That year Dallas finished 6-10 so they beat 1 winning record team in the last 5 games.

We of course beat them by 11, Tampa by 17, the Rams by 13, lose to Atlanta in the dome 34-31 although Jake throws for 340 yards and Vick runs for 12 yards with less than 2 minutes in the game on the miraculous levitation play from the 5 yard line to win by three. Then we go to new Orleans and we have another close loss to the Saints that could have gone either way.

And they were dominant and we totally were crappy. Couldn't be that they always play the Falcons tough just like for a number of years we always beat Tampa. Yeah no spin there. Except for that one play that I saw in person and still can't believe by Vick, we are 4-1 as well. Yep they were totally dominant and we were totally lucky.

And if you actually talked intelligent football without all the spin and personal insults you wouldn't be a troll and afraid to go to a tailgate where you would be likely tarred and feathered.


The game wasnt nearly as close as the score indicated. They were up 21-10 with only a few minutes left until the panthers scored a late TD and 2 pt conversion to make it 21-18. The saints bascially dominated and were the ones that played like they wanted to make the playoffs unlike the panthers.

The bottomline, the saints went undefeated the last month. They were the hottest team in the NFL the last month not the panthers. You said it yourself that a win is a win no matter who its against. Did you change your mind?

You're obviously getting frustrated because you're pouting again. All Im doing is talking football without even having to spin anything. You're the only one that is throwing things up against the wall and hoping that it sticks.

LOL who cares about the tailgate? I dont know you or anyone here and yall dont know me so why would I have any desire to go? If I ever take this forum as serious as you I will show up so you can beat me up. LOL!

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:43 PM

LOL! Now who's spinning things? Patriots had the 3rd toughest schedule in 2007. They beat half the playoff teams in the NFC and all the playoff teams in the AFC. That counts a little more in my book than beating only teams that were .500 or less

And like I said, the hottest team the last month in the NFL was the saints 4-0 not the panthers 2-2.


Refers back to the yearly thread about how toughest schedules are totally crap before the season and are based on last year not the present.

And next time use last quarter since last month actually either covers the one game in January or covers December/ January which was 5 games. We beat them December 5 by 11 and lost 4 weeks later by 3. During that span they beat 1 winning team, Atlanta, which we lose to in the dome on Vick's levitation play in the last 2 minutes. We then have to go to the dome to play them and lose by 3 points. We still go 3-2 and could have easily went 4-1 or even 5-0.

No you are totally off base as usual.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:51 PM

Refers back to the yearly thread about how toughest schedules are totally crap before the season and are based on last year not the present.

And next time use last quarter since last month actually either covers the one game in January or covers December/ January which was 5 games. We beat them December 5 by 11 and lost 4 weeks later by 3. During that span they beat 1 winning team, Atlanta, which we lose to in the dome on Vick's levitation play in the last 2 minutes. We then have to go to the dome to play them and lose by 3 points. We still go 3-2 and could have easily went 4-1 or even 5-0.

No you are totally off base as usual.


But we didnt go 4-1 or 5-0 the last month of the season. However, the saints did which means they were hotter than the panthers in the final month/quarter/whatever.

Now who's off base?

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 07:02 PM

The game wasnt nearly as close as the score indicated. They were up 21-10 with only a few minutes left until the panthers scored a late TD and 2 pt conversion to make it 21-18. The saints bascially dominated and were the ones that played like they wanted to make the playoffs unlike the panthers.

The bottomline, the saints went undefeated the last month. They were the hottest team in the NFL the last month not the panthers. You said it yourself that a win is a win no matter who its against. Did you change your mind?

You're obviously getting frustrated because you're pouting again. All Im doing is talking football without even having to spin anything. You're the only one that is throwing things up against the wall and hoping that it sticks.

LOL who cares about the tailgate? I dont know you and you dont know me so why would I have any desire to go? If I ever take this forum as serious as you I will show up so you can beat me up. LOL!


Your right about new Orleans we totally outplayed them. Why not include the fact that there was a 14 point swing in the second quarter when we were inside their 15 yard line and Jake gets sacks and fumbles. They recover and drive for a score. Otherwise if he doesn't fumble, we are up at half 10-7 or at least close at 7-6 behind instead of 14-3 in a hole at the half. The second half we totally outplayed them. Even then we had a chance to tie them at the buzzer but had Kasay's field goal kick blocked with 4 seconds on the clock.

As for tailgating and the rest, why are you here then. Most people think you are a troll and don't like you. You annoy most folks and argue all day. And we don't know each other largely because I have enough people I have to deal with who are annoying without seeking one out like you. As for this thread you constantly are wrong but argue nonetheless. I will let it go to someone else to pick up the gauntlet. Don't worry though, I am sure you can find someone else to annoy.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 07:10 PM

Your right about new Orleans we totally outplayed them. Why not include the fact that there was a 14 point swing in the second quarter when we were inside their 15 yard line and Jake gets sacks and fumbles. They recover and drive for a score. Otherwise if he doesn't fumble, we are up at half 10-7 or at least close at 7-6 behind instead of 14-3 in a hole at the half. The second half we totally outplayed them. Even then we had a chance to tie them at the buzzer but had Kasay's field goal kick blocked with 4 seconds on the clock.

As for tailgating and the rest, why are you here then. Most people think you are a troll and don't like you. You annoy most folks and argue all day. And we don't know each other largely because I have enough people I have to deal with who are annoying without seeking one out like you. As for this thread you constantly are wrong but argue nonetheless. I will let it go to someone else to pick up the gauntlet. Don't worry though, I am sure you can find someone else to annoy.


Every one of your arguments is "if this play didnt happen" or if "that play didnt happen" we would have done better. No poo shirlock! Hey Maybe if Jake didnt overthrow a wide open Moose in the 2nd quarter when nobody was around him we would have won too. But that didnt happen did it? Im basing things on what actually happened not on what didnt. The fact is the panthers lead 3-0 and never once lead again.

You're the one who is bitching that I dont come to the tailgates not the other way around. This is a MB and nothing more. If you post here to make friends then that is fine. I post here to talk about the panthers. Its not my fault that you dont like me being brutally honest. I suggest you grow thicker skin.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 08:03 PM

The WR has always been an issue with Fox.
NFL is a passing league now, and Fox's record with the pass is horrid to say the least.
I dont know how appealing a one trick pony will be to other teams as a head coach.


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