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#1 Cat

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 04:33 PM

"America is going to turn back to God."

What does that mean? I've heard many politicians make similar statements. I know after 9/11 people said stuff like that. Are they implying that if we focus on God that bad things wont happen? and that things will become better?

#2 Jangler

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure if we have removed their only firm basis: a conviction in the minds of men that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever. ~ Thomas Jefferson

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 06:19 PM

God will always be a catalyst to rally people to your cause.

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 06:41 PM

You actually listen to Beck?!?!?!?!

*head splosion*

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:01 PM

Betcha God's got some great miscarriage jokes!

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:06 PM

Beck is a mormon. here are some facts from the Book of Mormon about Glenn Beck's idea of the God he is referencing here.

he believes that God was a man, and space aliens man him into a God.

he believes God lives on a planet called Kolob.

God fuged Mary.

Black people are cursed with black skin by Elohim because they didn't choose between Jesus and Satan.

when he dies, he will become the God of his own planet.

dinosaur fossils were planted by Satan.

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:02 PM

what a sorry excuse for a rally they had today. they made it into some sort of religious gathering. what ever happened to seperation of church and state mr beck, eh?

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:50 PM

Beck is a mormon. here are some facts from the Book of Mormon about Glenn Beck's idea of the God he is referencing here.

he believes that God was a man, and space aliens man him into a God.

he believes God lives on a planet called Kolob.

God fuged Mary.

Black people are cursed with black skin by Elohim because they didn't choose between Jesus and Satan.

when he dies, he will become the God of his own planet.

dinosaur fossils were planted by Satan.


you forgot magic underwear and no caffeine

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:19 PM

indeed. they believe their "temple garments" offer literal protection from bullets and knives.

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 10:12 PM

God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure if we have removed their only firm basis: a conviction in the minds of men that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever. ~ Thomas Jefferson


So what do you say to Benjamin Franklin, a man who didnt believe in God?

#11 Jangler

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 10:23 PM

You sure about that? Maybe you need to find some real history instead of the forged history the progressives want you to believe about our Founding Fathers...


This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins.


Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.


Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.


Benjamin Franklin and “Providence”
Benjamin Franklin loomed as large as any of the key leaders of the movement toward independence. Though many consider Franklin to have been a man of questionable faith in God, he spoke frequently of his belief that God Himself was directing the parties who led the Revolution. In fact, said Franklin, it was God who orchestrated the whole history-making event!

Using the colonial term for the hand of God, “Providence,” Franklin here testifies to his belief that God’s hand was ever active in the birth of our nation:
“The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?”

Below are two more quotes from Franklin that express his understanding of God:

“My dear friend, do not imagine that I am vain enough to ascribe our success [Revolution] to any superiority…If it had not been for the justice of our cause, and the consequent interposition of Providence, in which we had faith, we must have been ruined. If I had ever before been an atheist, I should now have been convinced of the being and government of a Deity!”
—In a letter to William Strahan, August 19, 1784

“I must own I have so much faith in the general government of the world by Providence that I can hardly conceive a transaction of such momentous importance to the welfare of millions now existing, and to exist in the posterity of a great nation, should be suffered to pass without being in some degree influenced, guided, and governed by that omnipotent, omnipresent, and beneficent Ruler.”
—On the impact of Independence on generations of Americans during the Constitutional Convention


Edited by Jangler, 28 August 2010 - 10:29 PM.


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Posted 28 August 2010 - 10:32 PM

if you're wondering why the phrasing in the Jefferson quote is so weird, it's because it's not a real quote. it's bits and pieces of different quotes and sources pasted together to try to make him look like a mormon fugnuck like Beck.

"The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them." from a 1774 article to the king.

"With the morals of the people, their industry is also destroyed. For in a warm climate, no man will labor for himself who can make another labor for him. This is so true that, of the proprietors of slaves, a very small proportion are ever seen to labor. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure, when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of god?" from Notes on the State of Virginia, about slavery, not religion.
all the improper capitalization of pronouns like Him that evangelicals do wasn't in the quote, either.

Jefferson was a deist and belived in god. it's just hilarious that they have to make poo up to prove it. and Janger/Beck accuse progressives of trying to revise history :D

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 10:33 PM

the progressives...lol. these politicians serve the will of their corporate/special interest sponsors, not some sort of socialist/communist/progressive ideology.

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 11:08 PM

I'd rather this country be run by a corporate group than progressives any day of the week.

And Beck preaches this because many see it (falsely) as the only alternative to a collectivist society of subjective ethics. It's a war of different flavors of mysticism, with one half worshiping God and the other worshiping society.

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 11:10 PM

the progressives...lol. these politicians serve the will of their corporate/special interest sponsors, not some sort of socialist/communist/progressive ideology.


Agreed. Progressives are on both sides of the isle. John McCain is one. And they are undermining everything this country stands for.

Edited by Jangler, 28 August 2010 - 11:13 PM.



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