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#1 Ohio

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 12:46 AM

How bad is the Big Easy, I mean East?

Pitt lost- Predicted conference champ

Uconn lost bad to a middle of the pack Big 10 team- Predicted 2nd, with some saying maybe the conference champ.

Cincinnati was manhandled by Fresno ST- The 2 time defending Big East Champs.

WVU was leading Coastal Carolina 10-0 at the half before winning 31-0.

I think this is without a doubt, the worst BCS conference this year.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:02 AM

For the past 5 years the Big East has been better than most of the BCS conferences excluding the SEC. Dont worry though they wont be around to much longer. I give the conference 2-3 years before they lose their football schools.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:09 AM

I dont see how you can say they've been better then most, when the past 2 years they havent won a BCS game. Last year their top team was destroyed by Florida, and their #2 team WVU, lost to the ACC #6 team Florida ST.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:13 AM

Final 2009-2010 Conference Bowl Record:


* Mountain West: 4-1


* Big East: 4-2


* SEC: 6-4


* Big Ten: 4-3


* Big 12: 4-4


* ACC: 3-4


* Pac-10: 2-5


* Sun Belt: 1-1


* C-USA: 2-4


* WAC: 2-2

#5 Ohio

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:17 AM

Well if you think a conference is strong when their top teams get embarrassed, go right ahead.

0 BCS WINS THE LAST 2 YEARS

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:19 AM

I think the Big East is still the best BCS conference not named ACC, SEC, Big 12 or Big Ten. While they have struggled to win their BCS bowls in recent years, they still have depth that the MWC, even with its recent "explosion" onto the scene still lacks.

The Mountain West has TCU, Utah, (pending) Boise State and (tentatively) BYU. Other than that, none of the other schools have really made an impact on the national stage.

Meanwhile, the Big East has as recently as five years ago had WVU, Pitt, USF, Rutgers and Cincinnati who all, at one time or another, were (and for some, still are) contenders.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:19 AM

http://blog.philstee...gs-past-decade/

Conference Bowl Rankings 2000-2009

Rank Conf Overallvs BCS vs Non-BCS vs RankedBCSBowlsRec as Ranked
1 SEC 48-31 43-29 5-2 32-17 12-3 28-18
2 MWC 24-14 11-7 13-7 6-3 2-1 11-4
3 Pac-10 31-26 25-18 6-8 16-14 9-3 18-11
4 Big East 32-19 20-18 12-1 8-9 6-4 15-11
5 Big 12 38-39 32-34 6-5 18-25 6-9 19-20
6 Big 10 28-41 26-40 2-1 19-27 6-11 16-23
7 ACC 35-36 28-32 7-4 10-17 1-9 13-18
8 WAC 15-20 7-9 8-11 4-4 2-1 4-6
9 CUSA 21-31 1-10 20-21 6-6 0-0 2-2
10 MAC 11-20 1-9 10-11 0-1 0-0 3-1
11 Sun Belt 5-8 0-0 5-8 0-0 0-0 0-0


http://www.google.co...pbkFsB-WpqhXhIg

Edited by Squirrel, 05 September 2010 - 01:22 AM.


#8 Ohio

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:24 AM

http://blog.philstee...gs-past-decade/

Conference Bowl Rankings 2000-2009


That means nothing. VT and Miami were still in the conference in 2000-2003. So whats your point?

And yes I agree they're better then the Mountain West and WAC, but not better then any other BCS conference. USF always starts strong but fades every year, and Rutgers had 1 decent season. After Miami left, WVU is the only consistent winner in the conference.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:36 AM

That means nothing. VT and Miami were still in the conference in 2000-2003. So whats your point?

And yes I agree they're better then the Mountain West and WAC, but not better then any other BCS conference. USF always starts strong but fades every year, and Rutgers had 1 decent season. After Miami left, WVU is the only consistent winner in the conference.


Big East 32-19 Against BCS conference teams. So take away VT and Miami's wins and that is still great.

Funny coming from some whose team is in the Big 10. You asked for proof I showed it. Ohio St has been eating off the gravy train for along time. Care to show how the Big East has done against the Big 10?


ACC fans have no room to talk as yall havent done squat since raiding the Big East.

Edited by Squirrel, 05 September 2010 - 01:39 AM.


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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:46 AM

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:59 AM

3 years out of 9 is pretty big dude, 33%. Take out Miami and VT wins, and how many do you get? Its funny you want to give the Big East credit for teams that dont even play in the conference!

You have no proof. You tried to sell me fools gold and I saw right through it. It's hilarious you only show the past 4 years, like football wasnt played before then. What happend from 2000-2005 since you want to add Miami and VT?

What gravy train is that? The do you really want to compare Ohio ST to the Big East teams? By all means go ahead. Let me know how that goes.

And to answer your question about the Big 10 vs the Big East, the Big 10 holds a 46 to 25 lead, 64.8%. http://mcubed.net/nc...g10/index.shtml

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 09:48 AM

Its simple math 32-19 from 2000 to 2009. So you are saying miami and VT won most of those. Well Miami was 3-1 VT was 2-2 for a total of 5-3. Take those away and you still have a record of 27-16. Simple math But I still like how you are throwing rocks when your house is made of glass. The Big 10 has been sucking for awhile now.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 10:06 AM

The top 4 teams in the Big 10 won their bowls last year. 2 BCS wins. And you say the Big East was better. What logic is that?

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 11:34 AM

The top 4 teams in the Big 10 won their bowls last year. 2 BCS wins. And you say the Big East was better. What logic is that?


Yeah last year. I showed where the Big East for the past 4 years had a winning Bowl season. I also showed the last 10 years that the Big East has a better Bowl season against BCS oppenents and you still want to argue. I have proven your logic flawed so Im through trying.


This year the Big East might be bad it might not. But to say it is the worse BCS conference is a lie.

Edited by Squirrel, 05 September 2010 - 11:40 AM.


#15 Ohio

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 12:38 PM

You're the only one on this site who would say the Big East is better then the Big 10.

Your still claiming the conference is good, even last year, because the bottom 4 teams when their bowls. Who cares, they played against other mediocre teams. Whens the last time the Big East had 2 BCS teams?

Yes, their bottom teams are better then other conference bottom dwellers, but you think that makes them a better conference.

I've showed you that the Big 10 vs Big East record, with a overwhelming majority of wins going to the Big 10, and you want to argue.

You think VT or GT cant handle the best of the Big East? USC and Oregon definately could. So what conference/teams do you think are not as good as the mighty Big East?


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