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That United Owner Front is looking great Jerry.

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I'm not buying the "Can't do big contracts because of possible lockout" excuse either.

Brady deal proves that big contracts can get done without a new CBA

Posted by Mike Florio on September 10, 2010 12:12 AM ET

In late July, the NFL faced a problem. After an offseason that generated plenty of circumstantial evidence to support a finding of collusion when it comes to the failure to sign restricted free agents and or key veterans with a year or two remaining on their contracts to long-term deals, the owners had to decide whether to play hardball with the incoming crop of rookies, or whether to continue to sign unproven players to big-money packages.

The approach that many teams applied to restricted free agents -- offering the minimum tender and, in multiple cases, slashing it to the absolute minimum permitted by the labor agreement -- if applied to the rookies would have resulted in teams squatting on their rookies via a one-year, $310,000 offer, the minimum permissible tender under the CBA.

But the league likely realized that such an approach would come dangerously close to providing smoking-gun evidence of collusion, even though it would have been the logical extension of the approach taken regarding the league's proven players who are in line for new deals.

And so after the Rams gave a quarterback who had never played a down of NFL football a contract with $25 million guaranteed upon signing and another $25 million in guaranteed money vesting within a year, it only made sense that someone would break ranks from the "we can't do long-term deals until there's a new labor contract" mantra and sign a big-name player to a landmark deal.

The Patriots did just that on Thursday, with multiple reports indicating a guarantee of $48.5 million for quarterback Tom Brady.

The message? Teams really can sign veteran players to long-term deals notwithstanding the labor situation, and hopefully the fact that the Patriots finally have done it will get others to do the same -- which in turn could thaw the icy relations between the league and the union.

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I dunno, I can just see both sides of the argument.

But, for now, I am just not really offended or upset about it.

And that is probably because I dont have PSLs or a big finincial investment into the team. But I do invest emotionally.

I think I am just so happy about the changes in the roster, as far as, losing some of the old guys. And I am just really wanting to see some of these young guys play.

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the only problem i have with this logic is the massive amount of money he is paying all the players that got cut this season.... that and the fact he will have enough money to buy half the nfl free agents when the lockout is over.

and if he does get some of that talent that will be floating around, ALONG with keeping the stars we have grown ourselves I will gladly say I have overreacted to all this and that he had some Mad Genius/Comic Book villain plan that worked out perfectly.
yeah, i'm trying to look at a bigger picture here and hope it's not an illusion. when the new CBA is reached and things get back to normal, there are going to be tons of FA hitting the market. probably the best FA there has been in a decade at least.

All those teams that have spent a lot of money and have wrapped up players in big long term deals will be wishing they waited while they watch those who pinched their pennies and cleared cap space take advantage of it.

we may be down at the bottom in money spent and with some loser neighbors but of those teams, the panthers are the only one who are normally big spenders and keep themselves at or near the cap ceiling.

if we have a new coach, he'll have the ability and money to build up the team's weak spots through FA the way he wants to and will have the cap space to do it.

just a quick look at the potential WR FAs next year there are mike sims-walker, steve breaston, malcom floyd, davone bess, jacoby jones, and james jones. i can see several of these guys actually getting free and being able to make an impact on our WR corps if none of the non-smithers steps up this year.

of course this could all blow up in jerry's face but whatever.

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we could have made a serious attempt to get Marshall and been just fine in the cap area.. while improving our WRs tremendously for quite a few years, while having a true #1 to replace Smitty and let him play slot.. the sky could have been the limit..

we won't find a Brandon Marshall type receiver when we have "this huge cap space to spend and buy half the NFL".. we could have, but didn't.. and I doubt we'll see that in the future.. especially not as young and talented as that guy..

the best I see the Panthers doing regardless of who is available is to go for a 2nd rate receiver to "step into that role".. and that is a garbage plan, IMO...

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BruceB, it's ok to not do your best to win for a season ?
if you could just hold back a little one season and have it reap monumental rewards putting you in serious playoff and superbowl contention yearly, wouldn't it be worth it?

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Small minds see whats wrong right now. Great minds see whats wrong with the future. The big picture come into play here. Have you ever heard of a company where the workers make more then the CEOs....

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^^^ Brandon Marshall is one of the worst people in the NFL. I dont care how talented he is, he is a complete piece of poo.

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and generally ignored signing his young talented SuperStars.

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I'm not buying the "Can't do big contracts because of possible lockout" excuse either.

Kurb had some very valid points but who do ya'll think we should be wrapping up long term right now?

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Not signing Beason, Kalil or Williams to contract extensions is very telling to me.

Expecting fans to shell out big bucks ( in a bad economy) while you are cutting every corner to save money for the good of the NFL, and not the team, is IMO pitiful.

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I just don't understand. Didn't the front office make Peppers an offer that would have made him the highest paid defensive player in the league?

If they're willing to do that, why not extend Beason/Kalil or sign a free agent/trade for a WR?

I'm not worried about this season because I think we'll do well, but they could have done a lot more had they been more active.

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