Jimmy issssss starting!
Posted 05 August 2011 - 02:28 PM
Man we were so optimistic last year
Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:19 PM
Pike threw for 12 passes you know, 12... 12. Passes.
No way you can tell he killed the season. =D
Edit: I also mean whether he is good or bad, I believe he is good but he only threw for 12 passes.
Point was neither Clausen or Pike fit the offense. Neither were worth a roster spot for Foxs offense. Once Moote went down or sucked....Fox had no back up plan....and that wasn't Fox's fault.
That is what doomed us.
Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:20 PM
Name a team that earned the #1 overall pick with the kind of talent Carolina had on the roster.....
Just sad, the Clausen/Pike and Fox combo killed that season.....and it is really hard to blame them fully.
You keep arguing against yourself to try and place 100% blame on a rookie. With the talent you speak of the Panther's should have been able to win, period. Colt McCoy threw for 74 yards and 0 TDs against the Saints a few weeks after Clausen threw for 200+ and 1 TD and guess whose team won by multiple touchdowns? The notion that a team's skill players, especially the backs, can't pick up the slack is garbage. Hillis had a stellar year last year and he did it through brute force not McCoy opening up the defense lol. Speaking of which the Browns game is another one where Clausen did the minimum amount to put the Panthers in a position to win and Kasey misses a chip shot.
The point is that there is plenty of blame to go around last season. That team was disillusioned by the front office and not meant to win games any way you cut it.
Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:27 PM
Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:28 PM
Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:34 PM
Williams being hurt doesn't matter.... Ground game still produced better than half the league with no illusion of a pass.
Having it on the roster and then having it on the field are two different things. Stop hatin man and pull it together.
Hurt running back(s) all season with a hurt and underperforming O Line. A vet WR that played the role of "big baby" with two rookies expected to pick up his slack. A QB carousel thanks to a Lame Duck coaching staff grasping at straws. A young D with no real experience and what experience we did have was moved to new positions or was hurt. A gutted roster in preparation for a lock out, etc etc.
Do you really NOT see why NO ONE would have been good on this team last year? REALLY?
And where is your mention of Moore? Shouldn't it be Moore/Clausen/Pike and Fox? Moore had more oppurtunities than anyone, he was give every preseason game and then started the season...can't believe you even mentioned Pike, he hardly saw the field lol
Smitty's production was there when Clausen wasn't on the field
D was solid....Clausen hurt them as well.
Moore sucked but fit the scheme....that is why in his little time he had games like the San Fran one. Fox needed an option if Moore wasn't hot......he was given nothing. Probably why he went to Clausen so early despite knowing he wasn't better and benched him after a few games claiming Moore clearly gave them the best shot......knowing JR put Fox in horrible spot at QB is why he is now employed unlike most coming off a season like that.
It would be starting from scratch at RB and giving Fox Reggie Bush and wondering why Fox ground game didnt work....it wouldnt work bc Bush doesn't fit what Fox does
Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:46 PM
*Realized it was poo from last year*
*Quietly leaves thread*