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Panthers do everything possible to avoid starting Dwayne Jarrett

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I don't know.....
thats pretty much what i thought. you didn't need to say anything else. you have no reasons for it other than fox just doesn't' like some people.

that's weak sauce you're bringing to the table.

all that said, Jarrett should be cut. B/c no matter if you think he has potential or is garbage. It is hurting the team by keeping a spot filled that the coach won't use.
this i can agree on.
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Hmm just thought about something; I have noticed a lot of people asking why we kept him around this year...I'm one of those guys, I'm not a Jarrett fan at all, but the fact is...he is still here.

With what CRA is saying about Jarrett not being a "Fox guy" but yet the front office likes him has me asking myself; did someone in the FO make Fox keep Jarrett? Regardless of what Fox wanted to do? Could it be JR wants to give the new, incoming, Head Coach the opportunity to evaluate and decide if Jarrett can be a valuable part of the team?

Hmmm now that I typed that I have to wonder if that is why JR hasn't redone other contracts that ends this year...is he pretty much saying "here new coach, here are the players you can pick and choose from, have at it"?

It ain't Fox's call who stays or goes right now. If Fox had his way Hoover would be leading the way for his RBs for Fox's farewell season. Jake would be on this roster.

Like I said, Gantt is a Jarrett hater...but even he admits Jarrett has a lot of fans in the organization (but never mentions Fox). You aren't a lazy dumb garbage WR to hang around this long and have those type folks high on you. People continue to ignore these little things and only want to focus on Fox not giving him reps as the ultimate sign.

Richardson is gonna give the new coach a super young roster and he can keep the promising ones and bring in what he needs. We don't know the type pieces a new coach will need for his actual legit modern offense.

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What would be the point in the "others" in the FO making Fox keep Jarrett when those others must know Fox "hates" him and thus not start him. Why don't they just make Fox start him?

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Hmm just thought about something; I have noticed a lot of people asking why we kept him around this year...I'm one of those guys, I'm not a Jarrett fan at all, but the fact is...he is still here.

With what CRA is saying about Jarrett not being a "Fox guy" but yet the front office likes him has me asking myself; did someone in the FO make Fox keep Jarrett? Regardless of what Fox wanted to do? Could it be JR wants to give the new, incoming, Head Coach the opportunity to evaluate and decide if Jarrett can be a valuable part of the team?

Hmmm now that I typed that I have to wonder if that is why JR hasn't redone other contracts that ends this year...is he pretty much saying "here new coach, here are the players you can pick and choose from, have at it"?

I am a jarrett fan and do see his potential. We all should be this open-minded. This is a possibility

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This is just crazy. Dewayne Jarret is awful. If he wasn't, Fox would give him the reps. Fox LOVES veteran players and w/ 3 years in the system he is a vet WR. Foxs' last contract year, I dont care what anyone thinks, he's gonna try and keep his job. I mean I cant see him thinking to himself "I cant wait until I can leave here to coach Cleveland, or Oakland, or St. Louis.'' B/c lets be honest those will be his choices.

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Isn't Jarrett in the last year of his rookie deal? He is a FA agent after this season, so 'keeping him around for the next coach' is illogical, because they will have to extend him to keep him...

There is literally no logical spin you can put on this to explain the Jarrett situation.

-If Fox refuses to play him, then the FO will recognise this and either force Fox's hand or cut Jarrett. No other coach will get the chance to coach him

-If he really is that bad/lazy/stupid then he would have been cut

-If they see he is a player for specific plays, then he would feature more

-If the FO thought Gettis was the better player, then why deactive HIM instead of Jarrett in week 1

As it is, they are coming across as...stupid? Almost like they do not want to admit a mistake? I dunno, it's a really weird and unreadable situation

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This is just crazy. Dewayne Jarret is awful. If he wasn't, Fox would give him the reps. Fox LOVES veteran players and w/ 3 years in the system he is a vet WR. Foxs' last contract year, I dont care what anyone thinks, he's gonna try and keep his job. I mean I cant see him thinking to himself "I cant wait until I can leave here to coach Cleveland, or Oakland, or St. Louis.'' B/c lets be honest those will be his choices.

Those teams look better than what we did when Fox first came here.

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Isn't Jarrett in the last year of his rookie deal? He is a FA agent after this season, so 'keeping him around for the next coach' is illogical, because they will have to extend him to keep him...

There is literally no logical spin you can put on this to explain the Jarrett situation.

-If Fox refuses to play him, then the FO will recognise this and either force Fox's hand or cut Jarrett. No other coach will get the chance to coach him

-If he really is that bad/lazy/stupid then he would have been cut

-If they see he is a player for specific plays, then he would feature more

-If the FO thought Gettis was the better player, then why deactive HIM instead of Jarrett in week 1

As it is, they are coming across as...stupid? Almost like they do not want to admit a mistake? I dunno, it's a really weird and unreadable situation

Well that’s not necessarily true; bare with me while I try to explain my feelings since I thought about this.

Yes, Jarrett is in the last year of a rookie contract, and YES he is a FA after this season. But "keeping him around for the next coach" still makes sense. Hypothetical situation; new coach comes in and gets a list of players whose contracts are up, which is more than a few. Jerry lets the NEW coach decide who he would like to keep around, thus a new contract will be offered to said people. Now, he doesn't have to sign of course but most players would be excited by the opportunity to play for a new coach and let’s face it, Jarrett has done nothing to DEMAND top dollar from any other team? I personally believe if we would have fired Fox at the end of last season we would still have Peppers, whether that’s a good or bad thing is your opinion but a new coach always inspires players!

Now, you ask why not make Fox start him? Good question, I believe its because this is Foxes ship to sink, JR is letting Fox do his HC thing but JR is making all the personnel decisions. Not to mention, IF this is true and its a Fox / Jarrett thing...can you imagine how bad Fox would make Jarrett’s life if Fox was forced to play him? I mean really, why would Fox care? He is gone after this year anyway! In a way, the FO has forced Foxes hand, they didn't offer him an extended contract. In other words, Jerry to Fox: "John, I'm not going to fire you but I'm not going to keep you around after this year. Go ahead and do what you do but you are no longer in charge of personnel decision. Have a nice life after the season".

I'm in the camp that DOES believe he is that bad, but I can see where you're coming from...why not cut him? It is an interesting question.

Don't wanna comment on play calling, that’s a sore subject right now

Well, Jarrett was active as well, it wasn't like he was made inactive and he did play...Fox has the power to not start or play someone but maybe not the power to make DJ inactive

Again, I'm reaching here but it does sound feasible

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Maybe it was Hurney's decision to not cut him after preseason. Fox probably did not want him on the team... That's why he's not getting play time

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I don't think Jarrett is a physical WR....he is a big WR with great hands. If he was physical he would be a much better fit here.

1- Moose

2- a physical WR who could block better than probably anyone not named Hines Ward. Despite being physical and a wise vet....he simply couldn't get open b/c he was washed up.

3. - don't know what kind of NFL WR he is....a WR not ready to be starting in the NFL imo is what he appears to be.

Jarrett sure as heck isn't a speed receiver.

He's supposed to be a physical receiver. That's why he was drafted, to be the successor to Moose (Keyshawn at the time). Lafell is the same kind of player.

Bottom line: The argument that Jarrett just doesn't fit the offense has no validity because we've used receivers of the same type in Moose and LaFell (among others). It's not his profile that's the problem.

He just plain isn't that good :nonod:

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Those teams look better than what we did when Fox first came here.

When Fox first came here it was from a DC job 8 years ago. Since then he has been to the nfc Championship twice, superbowl once, And the playoffs three times, so I would say that your statement is lacking substance.

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When Fox first came here it was from a DC job 8 years ago. Since then he has been to the nfc Championship twice, superbowl once, And the playoffs three times, so I would say that your statement is lacking substance.

Im trying to see the substance in your argument...if this was college football id understand where you coming from but since *its not i can't follow you

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