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#31 rayzor

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:14 PM

Maybe, but to really make it work you need receivers capable of lots of YAC.

Outside of Smith (and Edwards, in theory) do we really have that?

well, thats where the modified comes in. we have to use the RBs, barnidge, and rosario a whole lot but i think between them that we have enough to make it work.

gettis might be able to fit as well as the WR across form smith. thats a stretch, though. i think he's got the speed/acceleration to pull it off, though. if lafell could hold on to the ball, he wouldn't be a bad option either.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:15 PM

Clausen has a decent longball for a college quarterback. I'm not convinced it's where it needs to be at the pro level, at least not yet.

His general profile is better suited to a west coast type attack, but we don't run that. Nor do we have the right type of receivers to make it work consistently.

That's not saying we have no chance, mind you. But the gameplan will definitely need to be a good one.


How many starting qb's in the league have a stronger arm than Clausen?

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:21 PM

this is why Mr. Scot is the fugging man. bow to him! love him! rep him!! (and pie him too..)

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:24 PM

Clausen has a decent longball for a college quarterback. I'm not convinced it's where it needs to be at the pro level, at least not yet.

His general profile is better suited to a west coast type attack, but we don't run that. Nor do we have the right type of receivers to make it work consistently.

That's not saying we have no chance, mind you. But the gameplan will definitely need to be a good one.


Erm, he has a fantastic long ball considering he was throwing that pass without being able to properly push off his back foot. Two torn tendons in your toe will do that to you.

His arm really isn't an issue at all.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:27 PM

btw, what video?

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:35 PM

watching the saints the other night, it seemed at least half of their pass attempts were screen passes(no wonder Brees' completion percentage was so high last year). They can move the ball up and down the field like that then get that big play to Henderson or Meachem down the field. I think we should adjust to those short plays, I just havent seen the deep accuracy from Jimmy yet so those short passes could set him up with confidence early on.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:37 PM

well, thats where the modified comes in. we have to use the RBs, barnidge, and rosario a whole lot but i think between them that we have enough to make it work.

gettis might be able to fit as well as the WR across form smith. thats a stretch, though. i think he's got the speed/acceleration to pull it off, though. if lafell could hold on to the ball, he wouldn't be a bad option either.


did barnidge even play last week? i had to stream the game and didnt get it til the second quarter and the quality wasnt crystal clear, but i dont remember seeing him or king much, at least passes may not have been directed their ways.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:48 PM

did barnidge even play last week? i had to stream the game and didnt get it til the second quarter and the quality wasnt crystal clear, but i dont remember seeing him or king much, at least passes may not have been directed their ways.

i remember him being on the field but i don't remember seeing him targeted.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 01:02 PM

Referring to the beginning of this well-thought-out post, I would like to put one thing in perspective for all Panther fans who screamed when we did not take a WR in the second round:

There were only 2 WRs drafted between pick #48 and #78, when we selected LaFell. They were Golden Tate at #60 and USC WR Damien Williams at #77, one pick before Lafell.

Assuming that USC WRs have proven to be risky picks and feeling confident that we are not drinking from that well any time soon, Would you rather have Golden Tate or Jimmy Clausen?

Is Golden Tate an upgrade over LaFell? If so, is the difference worth passing on the "most NFL ready QB" in the draft?

I still hear, "We needed a WR--why the hell didn't we draft one in the second?" Well, every one of the players we didn't pick except 2 were on the board in the third.

I would have taken Eric Decker, but the argument about the second round is a mute point.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 01:06 PM

Personally, I like our young WR's and I don't understand why everybody is freaking out. I think all this hand wringing over LaFell's hands is overblown and I believe David Gettis was a steal in the 6th round, and he had the Bucs defense beaten for a TD Sunday, but MM failed to get him the ball. That sure as hell wasn't the WR's fault.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 01:08 PM

Personally, I like our young WR's and I don't understand why everybody is freaking out. I think all this hand wringing over LaFell's hands is overblown and I believe David Gettis was a steal in the 6th round, and he had the Bucs defense beaten for a TD Sunday, but MM failed to get him the ball. That sure as hell wasn't the WR's fault.


everyone who is freaking is freaking out because they wanna see results now! Now! NOW!

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 01:19 PM

Love him or hate him, the fan base is as excited as they have been all season I'd imagine. People are really looking forward to the Bengals game.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 01:59 PM

Davidson's offense is supposed to be the same one that the Patriots used to win those Superbowls though. They dinked and dunked people to death with that offense, and still do.

We may not have a Wes Welker, but we do have Steve Smith and some RB's that can get yards after the catch, if the ball is on time and on target. Kevin Faulk thrived as a receiver in this offense, and we could use just about any of our RB's the same way.


we have a better wr to play the welker role in smitty. thing is who the hell would be the big time target on the other side? gettis, lafell, edwards, dj (lolz). edwards is the guy tapped to get the slot role, but idk if thats this year. if its a rebuild and the staff stayed (unlikely at this point imo), i could see going and getting that guy next year (we had no shot at one this year). aj green, jonathan baldwin, michael floyd, julio jones are all #1 calibre wrs. goodson would be the perfect andy reid back in a west coast system or even in the pats system.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:14 PM

watching the saints the other night, it seemed at least half of their pass attempts were screen passes(no wonder Brees' completion percentage was so high last year). They can move the ball up and down the field like that then get that big play to Henderson or Meachem down the field. I think we should adjust to those short plays, I just havent seen the deep accuracy from Jimmy yet so those short passes could set him up with confidence early on.


It's cos the Saints' (and the Patriots') play calling is super smart. Either you sit back in zone and let Brees/Brady pick you apart, or you send blitzers to hurry them and they hit you with screen after screen.

It's called playing to your strengths. When the best player on your football team is your QB, you use him.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:18 PM

Clausen has a decent longball for a college quarterback. I'm not convinced it's where it needs to be at the pro level, at least not yet.

His general profile is better suited to a west coast type attack, but we don't run that. Nor do we have the right type of receivers to make it work consistently.

That's not saying we have no chance, mind you. But the gameplan will definitely need to be a good one.

I disagree with this. I actually think our receivers are actually ideally suited to the WCO. As you have said, it's predicated upon YAC, and as we all know, Smitty is one of the best in the league at that. And with Gettis's size/speed/quickness combo, I think he is perfect for that offense. And while LaFell may not be super fast, he does have very good size and is much quicker than he gets credit for. So, again, I think he would fit nicely in a WCO.

Then you've got the RB's, all of them would thrive in a WCO, particularly Goodson. Rosario and Barnidge would also likely do well in a WCO. And when Edwards eventually completes the transition, we could have a very dangerous offense.


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