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#16 Claws

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 02:22 PM

They oughta take the damn win away too and give it to Hamlin!! Set precedent for Chase rules.

The car at Richmond ALMOST was illegal.............this one IS illegal.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:08 PM

Excellent article regarding the penalties...

http://www.buildings...-car-penalties/

Take note the end about the two truck driver. This appeal should be interesting...but know NASCAR's dictating ways, this bogus penalty will stand. Not to mention he PASSED pre-race inspection on this same item. It's bogus, and NASCAR will continue to dig it's own grave unless they fix it.

Edited by pcline25, 23 September 2010 - 03:15 PM.


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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:56 PM

They oughta take the damn win away too and give it to Hamlin!! Set precedent for Chase rules.

The car at Richmond ALMOST was illegal.............this one IS illegal.


Jimmie had the same thing happen to him a few years back and they didnt take points. One reason i hardly follow Nascar anymore. They need to be even with the rules across the board. Not have favorites.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 10:43 PM

They oughta take the damn win away too and give it to Hamlin!! Set precedent for Chase rules.

The car at Richmond ALMOST was illegal.............this one IS illegal.

Oh, yes. And Jimmie + Knaus are sweet little angels that have never even thought of approaching the grey area of the rulebook in their lives. :rolleyes:

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Frankly, it doesn't matter whether NASCAR is in the right or wrong here. There are no winners in this situation, only losers, with NASCAR, not Bowyer, being the largest one.

#20 2jakefansinva

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 10:46 PM

They oughta take the damn win away too and give it to Hamlin!! Set precedent for Chase rules.

The car at Richmond ALMOST was illegal.............this one IS illegal.


do you realize how stupid that sounds?

#21 iamcline

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 08:33 AM

Perhaps it is now time in NASCAR to start inspecting ALL cars post race. Including the ones that were caught up in an accident, etc, etc...

Let's let them be inspected as well because contact shouldn't be the reason you fail tech after you pass it pre-race. :)

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 04:18 PM

Another reason Nascar's following is diminishing as quickly as their credibility.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 04:35 PM

Another reason Nascar's following is diminishing as quickly as their credibility.


Yknow, I don't want this to come out wrong because I have no problem with you but.....

I've heard now for 10 years that Nascar is losing fans, ratings are down, ppl aren't coming blah blah blah.....

At some point, one has to agree this is the best the racings been in a long long long time. Different winners, chase (whether you like it or not), multiple series....

For as long as we've been hearing Nascar's dying, that life support they're on sure does seem to work well.

#24 iamcline

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 09:16 PM

Yknow, I don't want this to come out wrong because I have no problem with you but.....

I've heard now for 10 years that Nascar is losing fans, ratings are down, ppl aren't coming blah blah blah.....

At some point, one has to agree this is the best the racings been in a long long long time. Different winners, chase (whether you like it or not), multiple series....

For as long as we've been hearing Nascar's dying, that life support they're on sure does seem to work well.


Ratings have declined drastically, fans have stopped buying tickets. Those are two completely obvious facts, and there is no way to swerve it. The racing this season has been boring and stale the majority of the time. Sure some races had some great finishes due to GWC or similar situations, BUT people are tired of watching 4-5 hour marathons on TV these days. Especially with NASCAR milking advertisements on FOX, ESPN and TNT. You watch 5 minutes of race then 6 minutes of commercials it seems. That is a huge turn off...then when the action on the track only happens under commercial break, NASCAR has a problem.

No it isn't easy having commercial breaks during a live and non-stop broadcast, but is easier for those to accept it when you aren't having products crammed down your throat. I mean I for one am tired of seeing little green flag coverage and non-stop yellow flag coverage.

As for your post about different winners, you are right and yet you are wrong in that regard. While during the season the winners (while still the same) are a bit more frequent instead of long stretches of wins by certain drivers. However, the chase for the past 4 years has been won by the same driver. Drama? Non-existent.

NASCAR isn't on life-support, but it NASCAR is in serious condition. A condition that stupid things like this penalty won't help.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:03 PM

http://www.wralsport.../story/8373615/

They lost the first appeal but the process continues. Im not sure whose side to believe on this one.

#26 iamcline

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:36 AM

I kind of LOL at the fact that NASCAR is basically ignoring someone who has been replicating accidents and incidents for 45 years who basically has facts to back up Bowyer and RCR's claim. NASCAR is just...blah. If I didn't enjoy it on occasion I'd hope it rotted away. Brian France needs to crawl into a hole for a long time.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 02:55 PM

http://www.wralsport.../story/8373615/

They lost the first appeal but the process continues. Im not sure whose side to believe on this one.


My guess is the next appeal will end up the same as the first.
Can anyone on the forum remember a NASCAR ruling bein over turned?
There may have been but i don't ever recall one.

#28 iamcline

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 05:24 PM

My guess is the next appeal will end up the same as the first.
Can anyone on the forum remember a NASCAR ruling bein over turned?
There may have been but i don't ever recall one.


The last one was Charlotte Motor Speedway in 2000 when the bridge incident took place. The man responsible for helping CMS? The very same person who is helping Bowyer...I smell a vendetta on NASCAR's part now. They didn't even look at what he brought to the table this go round.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 08:51 AM

NASCAR rules with an iron fist. Usually when they make a decision, you can write it in stone. I used to be a big fan, but over the years, I watch less and less. Haven't attended a live race in many years. It's more politics now than anything else.

I'd much rather see an NHRA drag race.


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