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Fox turned this franchise from a perenial loser to respectable franchise. That said, I think he has lost the team, and we need to look in a new direction. However, you guy's should respect Fox for everything he has done.. without him who knows where we would be right now.

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Look I might sound crazy... but what we are seeing right now is as bad as its going to get for Carolina football, and its actually looking very bright. If you bring in a whole new regime your starting from the ground up. We DONT need to do that unless you want to be in the hole for the next decade. Why would you want cowher who has had more 8-8, 7-9 seasons then winning seasons. Why? because of one super bowl win as a 6th seed? We have a formula here. We want to run the ball and play good defense. This team truly isnt that far off the mark. You have your defense in place your linebackers are set, one more playmaker in the secondary and thats set. Instead of downing the organization for the bad right now look at the good.

1.) They've given us a safety combination that will be here for the next decade. and Gamble is solid... (i personally hate marshall)

2.) A defensive line (needs tweaking) thats just going to GROW as a unit, and only get better week by week. Already getting after the qb! The SACKS WILL come!

3.) An identity as an offensive line yes they are struggling, but it truly hinges on Otah. We have a right tackle that makes that big of an impact on the oline... Quite the pick by fox and company huh? We do need more depth, veteran depth that is.

4.) The linebacking core we have is an elite group... yes, elite! Where's everyone that was getting on fox and company's ass for not cutting James Anderson in past offseasons? The guy is playing phenominal football, and only ups the competition at the position for when Davis does return. We have pro bowlers and depth at this position...set for years to come.

5.) We now have the perfect qb for the system thats in place. Calusen plays like a vet... He has minor hiccups... But for the most part he gets the ball out, takes what the D is willing to give him, throws the ball away when it isnt there, hes already making plays...I just dont see him having one of those rookie 5int games like Sanchez or Stafford last year... Hes just a smart high football iq guy, and understands not to force it even if hes too cautious at times...That will change in time i mean hes already more comfortable after one game. The best part? They got him for 5 years under a second round contract...ABSOLUTE STEAL!

6.) Home grown Carolina double trouble...Need we say more? Williams relies on quickness, Stewart being the power relies on the power up front that is Otah... Just wait until he comes back!

7.) Ahhhh last but not least the WR's... Steve Smith is the man we all know that, but who plays next to him or in the slot? We all blame the FO for this, but they have tried! Keyshawn didnt work. Jarrett was a bust, but we all wanted him... Kiper had him going 13th overall in the draft! But once again Fox and company were able to avoid the big money contract and were able to get him at an affordable low risk high reward pick. It didnt work...We move on we keep TRYING to fill the void. Lafell, Gettis, we havent seen Armanti yet! Gettis is making plays, I personally think this kid is the answer. Big, fast, good hands. Lets not forget Fox and company have given us 3 solid tight ends...I think theres a diamond in the rough somewhere in this group.

8.) Cap space... We have ALOT of it. It's an emergency fund and thats ALL it should be used for. Fill through the draft, FA for depth, and possibly an emergency big money FA. We have to keep this team with that Carolina, home grown feel, with unique characters, and distinct talent. Grow each positional unit as its own team. Thats what we have. Now lets let them grow together for years to come...And lets let this team build together. It has to get worse before it gets better. Starting with Tampabay...Its ONLY up from here.

Extend Fox and let this grow.

??? Really dude. Do you have any idea what you are talking about. You must not when you sit here and say Bill Cowher has more 8-8 8-7 seasons then winning seasons?? Are you living on another planet or something. Bill Cowher has had 10 winning seasons of 15 like 8 divison titles a few AFC Championship titles 2 SB appearance and won one of the SBs. When you are talking about having more losing seasons then winning seasons you must be talking about fox right!!! If not you must be dumber then I thought. Our Linebacking core is very solid once TD comes back next year at full strength. Our front 4 is half decent group. We really need a stud DT and a Stud DE to be honest. Our RBs are very good it's just our oline is not doing well right now. JimmyClasun is a rookie and is going mess up this year not expexting much from him. Overall our D not all that good and the LB core is the only bright spot on the D. Our offense needs alot of help in the off season. Fox totally lost his passion for this team and the team as a whole just ain't responding to Fox no more. We need a need HC new direction period. Hoping for Bill Cowher because he has built a winning team with the steelers for 15 years.

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No. Nein. Non.

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Fox turned this franchise from a perenial loser to respectable franchise. That said, I think he has lost the team, and we need to look in a new direction. However, you guy's should respect Fox for everything he has done.. without him who knows where we would be right now.

ya we could have had winning seasons back to back or not. No one knows, all I know is right now we are 0-4 and we haven't been to the playoffs since 08 where we got dismantled.

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Fox turned this franchise from a perenial loser to respectable franchise. That said, I think he has lost the team, and we need to look in a new direction. However, you guy's should respect Fox for everything he has done.. without him who knows where we would be right now.
Man I can never forget how Fox almost help the Panthers win their first SB in team history. But like alot of us saying is fox time is up because it ain't happening anymore. Why other Teams out here are changing we are staying the same. It's time for the change wheather it is cowher or any other coach.. We might have some hard times for a few years. But it might be well worth it later on down the road. But far as fox is concern. It is is over and done. Time for a change.

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The combo of Fox and the Panthers has run its course.

At this point, both would be better with fresh starts.

agreed. i think fox is like caughlin up in ny. a good coach that now needs a new gig. it worked for hi, it could just as easily work for fox. i cant lay this season on just him. his hands were tied with this roster. tallent sure, but physical ability does not make a guy a good football player. he has a lot of tallent, but the physical abilities are way ahead of the football IQ.

he is a defensive guy and that is not our problem, its a shitty offense. thats part his philosophy to run the ball and be conservative (not all that different from cowher), but the line, wrs, and qb are all poo atm. tallented, sure, but again they have quite a ways to go before they are good nfl players. a bunch of rookies at wr, and qb are not a reciepe for success with a defensive oriented guy.

i hope the next coach leaves the defense alone to meeks (doubt it), and fixes the offense somehow. a guy like cowher is another guy with fox's mentality to winning games (clock control, run, and play D) and his speciality is again defense. he did have one hell of a staff assembled there especially on offense.

fox's time as panther coach is over unless something unhead of happens. and it should only as he has not had enough consistant success from injuries to bad calls, to bad FA moves, it really doesnt matter. his time is up.

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I finally clicked on this thread because I needed a laugh at work

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yes, please extend him!

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Lol

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yes, please extend him!

Fairly certain Fox has owned the saints during his time here.

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I think the main reason Fox isn't already gone is lack of a good replacement. A less than 500 season will render it a moote point. From the scuttle butt it already is. I don't know who'd replace him.

For me, there are quite a few unknowns. Not being a fly on the wall, its also hard to know who to blame for the "5 cent comic" offensive play book that we've been using since DAn Henning. The "DA" stands for "dumb ass." When someone like me could predict pass or run and to what side of the field with 85% accuracy while watching the game on TV you know the other guys could call it from the booth. My accuracy went up when I went to the game. I'm not as good with Jeff Davidson. A bit under 80%. I haven't had 4 years to watch him....Just once I'd liked to have seen Hoover, Goins and any other great running back we had on the field at the same time. I suppose it complicated things too much. If those were Fox's calls then we could find a winning Pop Warner coach to take his place. If the last two OC's were picks of Fox he needed to let someone else handle that responsibility.

For some reason since the Del Rio era we've had a working "D" I'd like to see Del Rio come back as a DC. Someone said last night his job was in jepordy. A great DC evidently doesn't have to equal a great HC.

In the end, if his game plan doesn't change Fox HAS to go. Who to replace him with is a whole other question.

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i don't wanna see fox go, but fox hasn't fire up anyone here lately so im down for a new HC. the only thing i see that make me optimistic about next year is the cap space (in hoping that they do do something major next year).

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