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[panthers55]

Everyone is talking about Clausen versus Bradford but honestly what about Clausen against our very own Chris Weinke who was a fourth rounder who never developed.

Weinke game 1- 13-22 for 223 yards- 1TD- win against Minnesota
Weinke game 2- 27-41 for 276 yards- 0 TDs- loss to Atlanta


Clausen- game 1- 16-33 for 188 yards- 0TD- loss to Cincinnatti
Clausen game 2- 11-21 for 146 yards- 1TD- loss to the Saints.


Weinke's offense scored 20 points a game- Clausen's 10 points.

Look at who Weinke had around him- no better cast than Clausen, in fact you could argue it was worse.

Go back and look at Collins first 2 starts as well and you will clearly see that right now Clausen is the 3rd best rookie we have had start for us behind Weinke and Collins. And that doesn't bode that well for the future.

[Brooklyn Bully]

Start Moore.

Fixed.

[The Saltman]

[X-Clown]

Trade our draft next year to bring Jake back.

Agenda is noted

[Squirrel]

Different kind offensive thinking when Weinke started. Fox doesnt throw the ball as much as Seifert did.

[Raskle]

to be fair though, isn't he also the third rookie to ever start for us as well? Thinking, but I can't remember anyone else here.. Did Fasani, Craig, or or whathisface that Seifert traded the farm for ever actually start?

[Jpjr]

i honestly attribute much of clausen's struggles to not getting reps with the starters during camp and preseason.

the comparisons you guys are making should not only be vs rookies, but vs rookies who came in for injured or benched starters into the regular season.

did anyone see kolb fumble his first or second snap when he came in for vick yesterday? those sort of things happen when you have been away from the starting offense, not because you are a bad quarterback.

[CRA]

i honestly attribute much of clausen's struggles to not getting reps with the starters during camp and preseason.

the comparisons you guys are making should not only be vs rookies, but vs rookies who came in for injured or benched starters.

again the mistakes in these first few games resemble much of what should have been ironed out in the preseason.

Joe Flacco?

[X-Clown]

Joe Flacco?

2008
Game 1 15-29 129 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT
Game 2 13-19 129 yds, 0 TD, 2 INT

[chris999]

gotta give him some time.

what if the colts had given up on peyton manning? he sucked his first year.

we dont know what is going to happen yet. i bet we will see improvement by the end of the season, and it is also pretty obvious that the playcalling isnt helping jimmy much either.

i also seriously question the quality of the coaching that jimmy is getting right now too.

[Floppin]

Joe Flacco?

Flacco has started since game one of 2008 so I don't see your point.

Ohh his first two games he definitely balled out.

Game 1 15/29 for 129 yards a 4.4ypc average and 0tds....he blew them away here.

Game 2 13/19 for 129 yards again...oooo better ypc average...wait for it, wait for it.. 0 TD's 2INT...OMG MVP!

Through his first 5 games he had 1 ONE ONE TD vs SEVEN 7, 7 interceptions.

[Dpantherman]

ugh, More garbage. thanks

[Inimicus]

17 of 35 for 180 with 0 TDs and 2 Ints in a loss to NO
13 of 23 for 241 with 1 TDs and 2 Ints in a loss to Atl


Troy Aikman's first two starts as a rookie.

Not saying Clausen is HOF bound, just saying its too early to try and sum up the dudes career.

Oh and that's with Hershel Walker, Micheal Irvin, and Daryl Johnston on his side.

[mav1234]

so what you mean to say is that we need to sign weinke asap?

[Pox 08]

So his first two games, he has worse individual stats than Weinke but better stats than Flacco.