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#76 scpanther22

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:21 AM

You are looking at it as an isolated incident. It's a series of events.

Steve Smith needs to make a decision whether he thinks he does or not.

Either,

1. Acknowledge that he is on a rebuilding team that is not anywhere close to a Super Bowl and step up a become a real leader; or,

2. Request a trade and leave.

What he shouldn't do is what he's doing now. Whether he intends to or not he's done everything wrong with a rookie quarterback. Yelling at him on the sidelines? Expecting him to thread the needle into double coverage so he can get his looks? Sitting out practices with one problem after another? Doing zero publicly to aknowlege Jimmy as an integral part of the offense (see Jordan Gross)?

Some leader.

Did anyone notice that since Randy Moss' recent comments he's playing himself out of the offense? Guess how many passes he caught from Brady last night on MNF? Zero. None. Zilch. The Pats won 41-14.

I just decided, I hope that Jimmy did throw that pass in the "dirt". The Panther's need someone concerned with this young team to lead it.


Smith is handling this just fine.IMO..you cant blame him for being frustrated we have been searching for a #2 for a long time and Smith goes 100% every play..

This entire situation is overblown

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:22 AM

Seriously how you guys can continue to worship Clausen for the dumbest reasons is beyond me. I'll join the bandwagon when he does more than complete 50% of passes and stops being an asshat of a teammate to a veteran.


Cmon now we did have a whole 10 first downs and converted 30% of our third downs. Forget that NO converted 60% of their third downs and had 27 first downs. Clausen had a better rating than Brees. LOL. He is Awesome!!!!

He was robbed for rookie of the week!!!!

#78 SorthNarolina

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:24 AM

Seriously how you guys can continue to worship Clausen for the dumbest reasons is beyond me. I'll join the bandwagon when he does more than complete 50% of passes and stops being an asshat of a teammate to a veteran.


jeez Mr. Scot makes a humble suggestion and now it's truth?

#79 panthers55

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:25 AM

Smith is handling this just fine.IMO..you cant blame him for being frustrated we have been searching for a #2 for a long time and Smith goes 100% every play..

This entire situation is overblown


Smith has seen this movie before in 2007. David Carr part 2. Sure he is frustrated. He knows how it ends too.

#80 HPPantherzfan

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:25 AM

Cmon now we did have a whole 10 first downs and converted 30% of our third downs. Forget that NO converted 60% of their third downs and had 27 first downs. Clausen had a better rating than Brees. LOL. He is Awesome!!!!

He was robbed for rookie of the week!!!!


About time you come around :D

#81 TheRealDeal

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:26 AM

He was good for two years and excellent in his junior season. He was so good Golden Tate let his draft decision hang on whatever Clausen decided to do.

And ND played a decent schedule. They always do.

Oh and Brantley sucks.


Decent schedule? Come on man. This is the stuff that gets to me the most. Just be real with it. He played a terrible schedule and put up good numbers. He didn't win a lot of games but that was mostly on the defense. Just be real and don't try and make it seem better than it is.

Fact: Jimmy's numbers were ridiculous his last season there.
Fact: They play a bad to terrible schedule each year and usually get destroyed by any real team they play. Numbers probably wouldn't be as good against if he regularly played SEC or PAC10 teams.
Fact: None of us know why he fell in the draft. Attitude, toe, delivery, Gruden's camp, etc but he did and now he's our starting QB.

If everyone just sat back and watched and didn't try to make everything this kid does seem better than reality or worse than reality this board would be a lot better.

Anyway, back to the original topic. If he did bounce it in the dirt on purpose and is purposely avoiding his biggest play maker on offense he isn't really bright. He should hit whoever is open to make his numbers look better instead of avoiding an open guy to prove a point.

#82 panthers55

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:26 AM

About time you come around :D


Yeah must be loopy from the pain medication!!:D

#83 Delhommey

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:27 AM

If I were a QB trying to prove a point, I'd hang one out high on that smoke route so he'd get Reggie Bushed.

#84 HPPantherzfan

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:27 AM

Yeah must be loopy from the pain medication!!:D


Oh, you should drink some beer with that! Makes it sooooo oooooo ooooo much better!

Just don't pull a Jarrett and drive :yesnod:

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:30 AM

jeez Mr. Scot makes a humble suggestion and now it's truth?


It's hardly a shot at him. This attitude is everywhere on this board about how Smith is a bad teammate and how Clausen is so wonderful and doing his best.

Smith is just like Muhammad was in 2000. He's a good WR with a coward at QB who wants to play it safe all game with drop offs (minus a broken defensive play that left stewart wide open) so he can lose and get his 90.6 qb rating.

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:31 AM

Seriously how you guys can continue to worship Clausen for the dumbest reasons is beyond me. I'll join the bandwagon when he does more than complete 50% of passes and stops being an asshat of a teammate to a veteran.


First off, you, panthers55, and CRA need to get your heads out of your asses. NO ONE on this board worships Clausen, NO ONE on this board thinks he's been playing lights out, and NO ONE on this board thinks he is for sure the future. What we all, minus you lunkheads, think is that he is "supposed" to be the future of this team. And if that's the case, he needs to be out there taking his lumps...which he is. Why you three can't get that is beyond me. And why you three read way too much into how we treat Jimmy is beyond me.

And sorry, if Clausen gets it going at any point in this season, you three can't hop on board. You've been banned from rooting for him as part of this team. Now, take your Matt Moore posters and wait by the curb at his driveway. Remember to bring your Sharpie.

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:32 AM

It's hardly a shot at him. This attitude is everywhere on this board about how Smith is a bad teammate and how Clausen is so wonderful and doing his best.

Smith is just like Muhammad was in 2000. He's a good WR with a coward at QB who wants to play it safe all game with drop offs (minus a broken defensive play that left stewart wide open) so he can lose and get his 90.6 qb rating.


LOL WOW!

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:32 AM

not to derail such an entertaining smitty vs jimmy clash (though i agreed with the poster that started off questioning why we have to take sides)

my thoughts at the time when Smitty called a TO was:

1) i can't remember the set of downs and all but at the time i wondered if a TO wasn't more important than 5 yards in that situation

2) the coaches called the TO the first time, i didn't think it was smitty's call to make. either let jimmy call it or let the coaches call it. smitty's responsibility is playing football not making field decisions

3) i thought smitty was pretty outa line being demonstrative about it. nobody likes being embarrassed like that and this org goes out of it's way to not single out and embarrass the players. but apparently smitty is above that. i thought it was classless on his part even if he is frustrated or doesn't like jimmy.

4) i thought jimmy handled in will in not reacting to smitty on the field.

if jimmy was pissed at smitty i think he had a reason to be. plus i don't think smitty or anybody else on the team would respect him if he just let smitty roll all over him. i agree that the qb needs to be your leader on the field. smitty can be the leader in the locker room though i wouldn't be following him much when he continues to make an ass outa himself. (not to take sides an all)

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:32 AM

play it safe all game with drop offs (minus a broken defensive play that left stewart wide open) so he can lose and get his 90.6 qb rating.


Jimmy calls the plays?

Whew. It's okay, everyone, Jeff Davidson isn't so bad after all, Jimmy has been calling the plays all along... If only we would have known that sooner!

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:34 AM

So why did he put it in the dirt for Gettis?


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