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#316 pstall

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 08:51 PM

I couldn't resist fiz.

http://www.nytimes.c...&pagewanted=all

New Jerseyans are hardly alone in paying for stadiums that no longer exist. Residents of Seattle’s King County owe more than $80 million for the Kingdome, which was razed in 2000. The story has been similar in Indianapolis and Philadelphia. In Houston, Kansas City, Mo., Memphis and Pittsburgh, residents are paying for stadiums and arenas that were abandoned by the teams they were built for.





But befitting its name, Giants Stadium is the granddaddy of phantom facilities. Taxpayers in New Jersey, already under pressure from declining local government revenues, this year will pay $35.8 million in principal and interest on the $266 million in remaining bonds for the Meadowlands Sports Complex, which opened in 1976 and includes the Izod Center and a horse racing track. Those bonds will not be paid until 2025.



#317 Catdaddy

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 08:54 PM

as someone who is from a ridiculously wealthy family, the idea that these people (for the most part) are risking anything is laughable.

Oh well, the proles will keep voting against their own interests in the pitiful belief that one day their tire retreading business will go public.


Do not believe that, but the owners should just say what the hell and redo the original deal like the union wants to do with no heartache.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 09:44 PM

I read through the first five pages and find this to be an engaging and spirited debate, people siding with the players, the owners, and those who don't give a fug, they just want football next year.

My question is, has anyone played the race card yet? If not, I'd like to go ahead and play it.

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#319 Rhys

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 06:52 AM

This isn't perfectly relevant but I heard on NPR this morning about a study by a professor at Harvard on wealth distribution. Wealth being, what you own and what it's worth, savings, car, house, debt, mortgage, etc, not your income. Basically your net worth.

He found that the bottom 40% of americans have 0% of the wealth in this country. That's right, 0%. As in the things that they own do not account for the debt that they have, or it reduces it to nothing over the whole of the bottom 40%.

The top 20% of americans own 85% of the wealth in this country. A large majority of which is inherited.

They didn't mention it but I assume that the middle 40% owns 15% of the wealth.

They also surveyed a large sample of people on what they thought was the current distribution and what they thought would be the ideal distribution.

Regardless of political affiliation, race, age etc everyone agreed that the distribution should be more even, somewhere closer to the top 20% owning 35% of the wealth. That's a 50% swing.

Now enter the owners and players, who are all in the top 20%. Both sides squabbling on how to breakup the remaining millions leftover after they have all made a killing on the NFL. All while Jerry continues to charge more for tickets, reduce the teams salary, leave our stars unsigned, charge insane prices for food and drink (standard stadium practice I know) and we're just supposed to bend over backwards and take it.

I agree with Fiz, murder the rich.

#320 Rhys

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 06:57 AM

http://www.rawstory....similar-sweden/

There's an article on the study.

#321 Dollar Store Dave

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 07:15 AM

He found that the bottom 40% of americans have 0% of the wealth in this country. That's right, 0%. As in the things that they own do not account for the debt that they have, or it reduces it to nothing over the whole of the bottom 40%.

The top 20% of americans own 85% of the wealth in this country. A large majority of which is inherited.

They didn't mention it but I assume that the middle 40% owns 15% of the wealth.

They also surveyed a large sample of people on what they thought was the current distribution and what they thought would be the ideal distribution.

Regardless of political affiliation, race, age etc everyone agreed that the distribution should be more even, somewhere closer to the top 20% owning 35% of the wealth. That's a 50% swing.


That's probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life...

I'm a college student, so I'm definitely in the bottom 40%. :(

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 07:39 AM

what the fudge happened to this post? its just one big pissing contest now

#323 CLTPanther

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 07:48 AM

Mines bigger than yours!

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 08:11 AM

Fiz's family is ridiculously wealthy?

Hook me up, yo!

#325 The Saltman

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 08:19 AM

This thread went to the tubes fast.

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 08:29 AM

Thats irrelevant regarding the statement I was responding to, namely that the owners are the only ones who invest anything.


I just logged back on, and was going through this thread.

The comment that you made, and then I made said nothing of investment, but risk.

Countless millions were risked by JR to start a team in NC, that is cold hard cash, or debt that could have bankrupted him. The players although having a heave time investment put up 0 money, and had 0 money at risk.

#327 Snake

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 09:01 AM

Really its Al Davis and like owners faults. If he would not give such massive contracts to his players then there would not be such a high price for there services. I mean yea he cuts them and dose not pay it all but that dose not mean every other good player in the League dose not want money like that. I mean its partly the owner fault if you look at it that way.

#328 Third Degree

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 09:15 AM

Damn it, now I have to wait until 2012 for the Panthers to win a game.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 03:01 AM

Because context means nothing to GS

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