No one is talking good versus bad, we are talking whether the guy gives you a better chance to win or not. They are very different. And all interceptions are not the same. One thrown in the redzone while you are driving for points or a pick 6 hurts you a lot more than a 40 yard heave at the end of the half or a hail mary which gets intercepted at the end of the game.
No one is going to say for example that Moore has played well by any stretch of the imagination yet when the alternative is a rookie who is unable to throw the ball down the field, go through his reads, or attack the middle of the field then the guy with the turnovers still has the better potential to win particularly when he has shown the ability to do it in the past.
On Sirous NFl Peter King was pointing out do you keep Favre in there last night or go with Tavaris Jackson? The reality is that Favre can screw it up like he did with a pick but he also can make throws Jackson just can't so despite the picks he gives you a better chance to win. The same type of analogy applies with Moore and Clausen. Clausen can'r make the throws Moore can and has shown no ability to drive the team. So despite the picks you go with the proven winner versus the guy who has shown nothing.
LOL, this is ridiculous - you're arguing in circles to avoid the simple fact that a QB who throws an interception on 10% of the passes he attempts vs. a TD on 3.5% of the passes he attempts (Matt Moore) does not give us a better chance to win.
You CANNOT WIN with a QB who throws a pick 10% of the time, plain and simple. Not even Brett Farve - one of the winningest turnover machines of all time can win games for you throwing a pick 10% of the time.
In the example I gave earlier QB # 1 was Jake Delhomme in 2009, QB # 2 was Matt Moore in 2010 and QB # 3 was Jimmy Clausen in 2010. Anyone who is not a blind Moore homer can see that Clausen has outperformed him overall (lower TD to INT ratio) ...AND CLAUSEN IS A FRIGGIN ROOKIE!
Yes, Clausen throws 2% fewer TD's per passing attempt but he also throws 7% fewer interceptions per passing attempt and has a higher completion percentage. Clausen has thrown for 5.0 YPC this year and Moore has thrown for 5.8 YPC this year, so you're tell me that .8 YPC difference makes Moore a better QB?
We can't argue winning records this year because neither of them have one, and don't tell me about what Moore did last year playing in relief, it's irrelevant at this point.
You also have to factor in that Clausen is a rookie and Moore is a 4 year vet and has had the benefit of being in this offense and throwing to many of these same players for much longer than Clausen.
Clausen may not be moving the offense very well, but Moore is a liability. I'll take the guy who doesn't turn the ball over 1 out of every 10 passing attempts and focus on my running game and my defense to win.
Edited by CatMan72, 12 October 2010 - 08:33 AM.