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So you are mad at Peppers....Gantt

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Since he takes so many plays off, the Panthers should have no issue with trading him ANYWHERE, including the NFCS.

I mean right? I'm sure you guys wouldn't mind facing him, he's nothing. I mean really Jake would juke him so bad with his pocket presence and avoid all his poo.

I mean really, what is he going to do, tell them our schemes?

The same schemes they already know, and can predict themselves?

Peps contract is over, he owes us nothing, he honored his contract, and made it known to every other team he is available. Business is business.

:nopity:

Whine all you want, but it sure as fug isn't Peppers fault he is un-happy here.

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For those that think that our defense in 2007 "wasn't that bad". Here is a chart that compares our defense rankings in 3 categories every year since 2002 (Del Rio's year). 2003 and 2006 are the only years I would say that we had a pretty good defense. The other years, including this year, we weren't very good. 2005 would've been great had we not allowed so many third down conversions.

I understand that according to the three categories you have listed that it looks like the 2006 defense was good, but it wasn't. That defense did something that doesn't show in your stats...blew a shitload of 4th Q leads handed to them by the offense.

2005, the D made up a bit for all the 3rd down conversions (which were annoying as hell) allowed because they also generated a good amount of turnovers IIRC. Without even looking up the stat, I would be pretty sure they were maybe average there this year. That is a trend I find very disturbing because I believe the Panthers are pretty high up overall in the NFL for turnovers generated by the defense since 2002.

As to the article:

Am I mad at Pep for wanting to explore FA? Nope, I will never be mad at a guy who is entering FA for wanting to move on. It is their absolute 100% right. I am a bit sad that his camp chose to make it more difficult to work out a sign and trade of something like that by going so public with the fact that there's no way he will think about staying, etc. And it is a concern what the underlying reason for his discontent may be.

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we lead all teams in takeaways since 2002.

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I understand that according to the three categories you have listed that it looks like the 2006 defense was good, but it wasn't. That defense did something that doesn't show in your stats...blew a sh*tload of 4th Q leads handed to them by the offense.
You are nuts. I went back and looked up all the games from 2006, and the only games we lost a lead in the 4th quarter were these:

Minnesota---score was 13-6 in our favor going into the fourth. We gave up one TD in the 4th, and a FG in OT, while our offense scored 3 whole points in the second half. And how did Minnesota score that TD? Chris Gamble fumbled on a punt return giving Minnesota the ball on our 21.

Cincinnati-We led 14-10 going into the 4th quarter. We gave up a TD. Delhomme throws another interception in the 4th and our offense scores 0 pts. in the second half.

Dallas-This is the one where it would seem you have a case, because we gave up 25 pts. in the fourth quarter. But how did that happen? Hoover fumbles a kickoff giving Dallas the ball on our 14. Dallas goes 14 yards for a TD. Delhomme throws an interception giving Dallas the ball on our 32. Dallas goes 32 yards for a TD. Delhomme fumbles at our 19 and Dallas goes 19 yards for a TD. By the way our offense scores 0 points in the last 3 quarters.

Philadelphia-We led them 21-14 going into the fourth. Delhomme throws 2 interceptions in the fourth. Philly scores 13 points, we score 3.

So as you can see our defense was fine, it was the turnovers that killed us.

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I was more hurt and had a feeling of betrayal than any anger, but that's dissipating. I'm just ready for whatever outcome might come about. There's a lot of hindsight is 20/20 happening with me as well, so that's making it easier to move on.

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With the the exception of the last 6 regular season games this year. Since 2002 I'll say 75% of this team's failure over the years lies at the foot of the offense.

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You are nuts. I went back and looked up all the games from 2006, and the only games we lost a lead in the 4th quarter were these:

Minnesota---score was 13-6 in our favor going into the fourth. We gave up one TD in the 4th, and a FG in OT, while our offense scored 3 whole points in the second half. And how did Minnesota score that TD? Chris Gamble fumbled on a punt return giving Minnesota the ball on our 21.

Cincinnati-We led 14-10 going into the 4th quarter. We gave up a TD. Delhomme throws another interception in the 4th and our offense scores 0 pts. in the second half.

Dallas-This is the one where it would seem you have a case, because we gave up 25 pts. in the fourth quarter. But how did that happen? Hoover fumbles a kickoff giving Dallas the ball on our 14. Dallas goes 14 yards for a TD. Delhomme throws an interception giving Dallas the ball on our 32. Dallas goes 32 yards for a TD. Delhomme fumbles at our 19 and Dallas goes 19 yards for a TD. By the way our offense scores 0 points in the last 3 quarters.

Philadelphia-We led them 21-14 going into the fourth. Delhomme throws 2 interceptions in the fourth. Philly scores 13 points, we score 3.

So as you can see our defense was fine, it was the turnovers that killed us.

Wait so your saying our last game vs the Cardinals WASN'T the only game Jake has cost us over the years?

WOW im SOOOOOO shocked.........:eek:

:rolleyes:

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Good article, franchise and trade him then move on.

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Mad? I'm not mad at him. I'm disappointed. Not in his play, cause I don't harp on him as many to. But I am disappointed that he wants to leave, and go else where.

But knowing that he wants to leave...let him leave.

I just hope that we can at least get a first round pick out of him.

I will also say this...I believe in Fox and Hurney. So I'll be watching with great interest with how they conduct themselves this off season, and how we over come this loss.

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