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Mr. Scot

Potential Head Coaches

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I'm trying to remember the last time Schefter speculated something about the Panthers that made sense (or came true). He's gone way downhill since parting ways with the NFL Network.

Gantt has said that Richardson wants the next coach to be a special guy, a guy who can coach here for a decade or more (at least) and have the team in perennial contention.

He knows he doesn't have as much time left as he used to, and he wants to see this team be what he imagined it to be before he passes. So as far as the next head coach goes, I seriously doubt salary is going to be an issue for the guy he really wants.

Sounds like a young college head coach named Harbaugh to me

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Or Brian Schottenheimer.

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Or Brian Schottenheimer.

Touche'

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I can't say the thought of Schottenheimer makes me feel all that confident, honestly.

He may indeed turn out to be a good head coach someday, but he's not someone that I find especially intriguing right now.

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Question:

Considering how many moves Richardson has made to brace for the lockout (which he seems to be pretty damn convinced will happen), what type of coach does he want for a franchise in such discourse over the span of a year without football?

He needs a coach who first and foremost can adapt to how the GM-HC relationship here works for basically a year of post-season. That's why this whole thing is gonna completely surprise us and its because the interviews are gonna mean just as much, maybe even more than a resume in the end. I can totally see our FO retreating, going a safe route for an experienced coach who understands how to really operate a team off the field and who can also be relatively quite.

So, its fun to think about Harbaugh, but I don't think he'd want to wade around in a franchise with our situation for a potential year without football. Additionally, I don't think Richardson would want a coach that talks as much as he does under the scenario. This whole search is still a huge question mark because the whole CBA thing will not only determine what type of coach Richardson wants here, but how much of a risk he's willing to take. I'm deciding to wait for a while on guessing who there actually gonna pick even though I have my favorites. I'm expecting a surprise for better or worse.

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Question:

Considering how many moves Richardson has made to brace for the lockout (which he seems to be pretty damn convinced will happen), what type of coach does he want for a franchise in such discourse over the span of a year without football?

He needs a coach who first and foremost can adapt to how the GM-HC relationship here works for basically a year of post-season. That's why this whole thing is gonna completely surprise us and its because the interviews are gonna mean just as much, maybe even more than a resume in the end. I can totally see our FO retreating, going a safe route for an experienced coach who understands how to really operate a team off the field and who can also be relatively quite.

So, its fun to think about Harbaugh, but I don't think he'd want to wade around in a franchise with our situation for a potential year without football. Additionally, I don't think Richardson would want a coach that talks as much as he does under the scenario. This whole search is still a huge question mark because the whole CBA thing will not only determine what type of coach Richardson wants here, but how much of a risk he's willing to take. I'm deciding to wait for a while on guessing who there actually gonna pick even though I have my favorites. I'm expecting a surprise for better or worse.

The lockout would affect every team, not just us. Every team looking for a new coach will be in the same boat we are.

Richardson's not stupid. He isn't going to choose a coach based on how he'll perform during a labor stoppage. He'll hire based on how that guy will coach once the labor stoppage is over.

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Agreed. I also think it's possible J.R. goes for broke and makes either a big splash hire or a big splash in free agency to send a message to the fanbase that he's not the cheapskate he's been accused of being due to the potential lockout.

Imagine Larry Fitzgerald in a Panthers uniform with #1 overall pick Andrew Luck under center throwing to him AND Steve Smith... :eek:

But but that would leave no room for the god that is Edwards. What would ASU fans do....

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The lockout would affect every team, not just us. Every team looking for a new coach will be in the same boat we are.

Richardson's not stupid. He isn't going to choose a coach based on how he'll perform during a labor stoppage. He'll hire based on how that guy will coach once the labor stoppage is over.

Yeah, I understand your first point, that's a given

And I never was inferring Richardson to be stupid or that would be the sole selling point in a new HC, but to think that potentially not having an NFL game for a year will affect his decision making is not a reach. Of course he's looking for someone who can build this team into a great club once the labor stoppage is over, but no doubt we will look to see how they fit with our team's mold off the field over the course of a year without football.

Same deal goes the other way: why would a young coach like Harbaugh want to come into this type of situation? It just doesn't fit. In the end, I think he wants to coach football, not wait around in the NFL for a year before he can coach a game.

We will all be surprised in the eventual decision

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Yeah, I understand your first point, that's a given

And I never was inferring Richardson to be stupid or that would be the sole selling point in a new HC, but to think that potentially not having an NFL game for a year will affect his decision making is not a reach. Of course he's looking for someone who can build this team into a great club once the labor stoppage is over, but no doubt we will look to see how they fit with our team's mold off the field over the course of a year without football.

Same deal goes the other way: why would a young coach like Harbaugh want to come into this type of situation? It just doesn't fit. In the end, I think he wants to coach football, not wait around in the NFL for a year before he can coach a game.

We will all be surprised in the eventual decision

"This type of situation" applies to every NFL team, not just us.

I really don't think the lockout affects the coaching choice in Richardson's mind at all. You don't factor a short-term situation into a long-term decision.

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"This type of situation" applies to every NFL team, not just us.

I really don't think the lockout affects the coaching choice in Richardson's mind at all. You don't factor a short-term situation into a long-term decision.

I said I understood in that very post and that this applies to every NFL team. But it varies in accordance to the type of owner you have. Different organizations have different ways of operating.

I'm factoring it in because it is a short term situation, that not only can clowd judgement for a long term decision, but it affects the team. period. I'm just pointing this out, not trying to promote the idea of not getting a long term solution at head coach. To say a potential year of no NFL has no effect on our coaching search is simply not true. Richardson is somewhat involved with the CBA talks from what I've read, so with this, it is directly affecting him running the franchise. And I'm not trying to say a new coach is going to have to side with JR and become involved, I'm just saying it potentially can cloud his judgement.

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"This type of situation" applies to every NFL team, not just us.

I really don't think the lockout affects the coaching choice in Richardson's mind at all. You don't factor a short-term situation into a long-term decision.

But I do agree somewhat and see where you're coming from. Richardson is a smart guy and probably understands that a coach can operate the team along with Hurney separate from all of the CBA hooplah. Its understandable he's looking longterm without letting all of the owner-players union stuff cloud his judgement.

I'm just getting frustrated that they haven't reached an agreement yet. But heck, maybe our organization is the best suited for a year off.

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My settings now have this thread at 100 pages :eek:

That's why I have links to the profile posts (and other stuff) in the initial post. I had a feeling this would go long. Still, 100 pages (995 posts) surprises me.

But hey, if anyone wants to go back and read through the whole thing, I'll give you a cookie :D

(not really; just wanna see if anyone'll do it)

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