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I Think we got the lemon QB in the draft


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#16 scpanther22

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:31 PM

That we DO throw a lot of short passes.


not by design.its because no one can consistently get open deep

#17 Proudiddy

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:36 PM

That we DO throw a lot of short passes.


I'm glad you provided that stat, but I want to point out that I don't think that it's our offense is designed for us to throw short passes, Clausen throws short passes.

Part of many people's concerns about him coming out in the draft was his habit of checking down, which inflated his college stats, and his inability to throw it deep, or at least throw it deep well. That stat shows that concern was legitimate. Difference is, I think he and Smitty weren't getting along well before Smitty was injured and he was looking him off, and we don't have a big YAC guy beside him.

#18 Phil Dees

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:38 PM

Next to last in 20+ yard passes (by 1), mainly because the last guy has 21 less attempts.

http://www.nfl.com/s...CH&d-447263-n=1

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:43 PM

Again, the concerns were legit, lol... That was part of why I wasn't really excited about getting him but hoped he would pan out anyway, b/c according to some draft guys he can "make all the throws"... You know, just like Brady Quinn could coming out...

#20 Nicbsbll2

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:45 PM

He's started a grand total of 3 games. Chill the hell out people.

#21 Phil Dees

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:51 PM

He's started a grand total of 3 games. Chill the hell out people.


The thread is comparing to other ROOKIES, some who have started LESS than 3.

#22 mav1234

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:55 PM

We are easily the worst offensive team too, and Clausen is only a part of that. He does seem better suited for a WC offense.. however, he isn't last in 40 yard completions at least! haha.

Not that it is possible to ever prove it, but I firmly believe that if you put any rookie on our roster, and hell, almost any QB, they would be bad if not terrible, too. =\ Not sure what happened between the end of last year and this year. Loss of Moose, Hoover, and Otah that huge? :(

He is in 20+ ones, though, and he can definitely make 20 yard completions.

I do not think his arm strength is one of his major issues. People have pointed out a bad release point etc, but I never remember reading about that in his scouting report. Did I just miss it, or has our QB coach worked wonders on our new rookie?

#23 beastson

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:55 PM

Start Jimmy for the rest of the season

#24 RockyTopVol

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:56 PM

I get the point of this thread, but I don't really think Max Hall beat New Orleans. The Arizona defense did.

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:59 PM

The thread is comparing to other ROOKIES, some who have started LESS than 3.


true enough. Mccoy only needed one game to equal Jimmy's TDs(and INTs, lol) in his three starts.

However, let's hold off on crowning Mccoy - or Bradford, for that matter - for a bit yet. Same with tossing out Jimmy.

His game against Chicago was one of the worst QB performances I've seen in a long, long time. His game against NO gave me some hope, but Chicago definitely was baad.

At this point, drawing any conclusions other than "Bradford has played pretty well in some games and not so well in others, Mccoy played ok for a rookie in one, and Clausen played absolutely abysmal in one" would be premature, imo.

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 08:59 PM

I get the point of this thread, but I don't really think Max Hall beat New Orleans. The Arizona defense did.


yeah.

Max Hall may turn out to be great, but didn't Arizona's D put up 2 TDs?

#27 Tank

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 09:02 PM

Hey 20 year ND fan...did you like him while at ND?

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 09:11 PM

He may be the lemon of the draft, but honestly, the offense as a whole looks bad. No body is doing anything right, so I think it's a chemistry thing. We cant just say its the QB only, when everybody looks off. We play like we dont practice.

#29 mav1234

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 09:18 PM

We play like we dont practice.


Or like we only have 5 or so plays. :(

#30 Doc Holiday

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 09:24 PM

jeff davidson's game plan & play calling may be the true lemon on this team


I don't blame Davidson we ran henning out of town for the same thing, what does these two have in common? Fox.

But with that said can you truly blame this on fox either though?


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