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Best Article Written About Failure of John Fox and Coaching Staff

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it's sad when as a football fan u want the season to end fast so u can get to the next one.

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What also sucks, is that we can't even really evaluate our players when we run this shitty offense. Hell, Jimmy could be doing as well as Sam Bradford if he played in their scheme for all we know. We're running a diluted offense that gives nothing but frustration to our fans and our team seemingly. GAHHH

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and as far as Im concerned, Fox can screw himself. Lame duck or not, no vets are not, he has a job to do, and is getting $6.5 million to do it. I have zero sympathy for him.

Agree 100%... He wasn't whining about the lack of talent and a "budget" when JR gave him his first head coaching job taking over a 1-15 team...

This isn't the first article talking about the lack of quality coaches on Fox's coaching staff, which have went progressively downhill since he's been here.

Henning and Del Rio (and even Trgovac) are a far cry from Davidson and Meeks.

I know Meeks gets props here but he is not very well-regarded nationally. Meeks is a very likeable coach, but the general consensus is that he is not a very strong or demanding coach. People believe Dungy protected him in Indy even when he had under-performing units, and Polian showed him the door once Dungy was gone.

Most league people think the defense remains competive b/c of Fox, which I agree.

And Davidson is a joke. Worst play-calling I've ever seen at the pro level given the players on this team. Maybe some of the blame lies with Fox as well, but it's lazy, unimaginative, self-defeating, garbage.

St. Louis is in a similar situation on offense and they are finding ways to get their playmakers involved, put points on the board, and win games.

It does make you wonder why... Does Fox not want strong voices (and coaches) on his staff or can he not attract top assistants? Either way, the Panthers have suffered b/c of this, and I'm sure JR has taken notice...

The mass exodus of coaches after the 2008 season is still strange to me

Fox is a very good (if not great) Defensive Coordinator, but he does not have the makings of a great head coach. Average maybe, but not great and not even very good. And 9 years is a large enough sample size to make a judgement.

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same stuff a lot of us have been saying for a long time. very interesting to see those thoughts expressed by industry folks.

for those of you thinking that fox will have a job right away when he walks out of carolina...you might want to be thinking otherwise. unless it is a team that has a history of making bad coaching decisions i doubt you will see him anywhere. it isn't just his coaching that will give him a hard time...do you think anyone will be able to trust him with finding the right coaching staff?

i was looking yesterday at the upcoming schedule and the more i look at it, the more i figure we might be able to get 2 wins this year....might. rams just beat the chargers and that was one of the games we were thinking we would do well in. the seahawks just beat the bears in chicago.

we might be able to beat the 49ers and cleveland but even then, unless something changes with the coaching i wouldn't count on it.

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Moore may have never been yanked at all had everything not gone wrong here. The O-Line takes so much of the blame, as does Double Trouble's traditional slow start. That, countered with Davdison's lack of a sack doomed this team from the get go and it has dug us to a point of no return. I feel bad for our QBs. Neither of them are THIS bad, but they have what they have and it's up to them to work with it. I still say it'll take 3-5 more games before guys like Gettis and LaFell are comfortable out there. Thankfully they signed Clowney and Thomas. Though that only helps a tad.

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well, we have incompetent people leading the way.....doing more probably doesn't help when you are doing the wrong things.

We basically went to Clev to get our offense. OC and QB coach.....no wonder we suck on offense.

where did we find out WR coach? not much better there.

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where did we find out WR coach? not much better there.

Tyke Tolbert came from Buffalo...

We are picking coaching talent from Cleveland and Buffalo... And now we have joined them at the bottom of the league

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Dan Arkush and the PFW staff are based out of Chicago, so it'd be no surprise if his "talent evaluator" was someone on the Bears staff (maybe even Jerry Angelo). That said, they've most certainly got contacts all over, so who knows?

As far as the article, I think it's probably (sadly) accurate. I don't buy for a moment that jerry Richardson planned to tank this season. Nor do I believe Marty Hurney expected things to go this bad.

Fox though? Given the circumstances, it's possible he's taken a "screw it, I'm outta here" approach.

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