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I'm not tired of defending Obama...but I am done.


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#1 Awesomeness!!

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:39 PM

Barack Obama was going to be that guy, you know? The guy that shook up Washington. That changed the culture of American politics, that.....brought the change the country needed. President Obama is the black Dick Cheney people. I don't understand why the right hates this guy so much. He is you. He is what you want in a President. The problem is, he isn't what I, or any true liberal wants. How he can call himself a democrat..a liberal, a progressive, how he can call himself anything other than a conservative is beyond me. Time and time again, he has turned his back on his base, the people that elected him in the first place, to be a "moderate". You know what happens to moderates Obama? Everybody hates them. The right hates you, and the left hates you, and thats how its always going to be. Being a "moderate" just means you don't want to piss anybody off. You're playing not to lose. You're not playing to win, and I have had it.

I still think (maybe wishful thinking at this point) that you can turn the country in the right direction, and I still support you, because unlike the tea bagging lunitics on the right, I don't care want color your skin is, or isn't, but I do not approve of the job you're doing as President. Therefore, unlike the lady in the crowd that said she was tired of defending you, I'm not just tired of defending you, I'm done. You give me no reason to defend you, or the job you're doing.

#2 ChucktownK

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:51 PM

Once everyone realizes that Dems and Reps are virtually the same while using social issues to make us think otherwise and divide us, then our country will be much better off.

#3 Matt Foley

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:16 PM

Once everyone realizes that Dems and Reps are virtually the same while using social issues to make us think otherwise and divide us, then our country will be much better off.


No they're not. They're opposites. Dems believe in fair share. They see the world thusly...picture 20 tables in a room with 100 hamburgers. The top two tables have 50 hamburgers, and the bottom 10 have five to split amongst them. The Democrat says there is no way this scenario is the result of anything fair and seeks to redistribute the hamburgers.

The Repubs believe in fair play. Lay down rules, and let those who want it go get it, and those who don't starve. If that means stockpiling hamburgers, so be it. You reap what you sow.

We go back and forth between the two because sticking with one never works. Telling the lazy among us that they get their hamburger whether they work or not leads to people who have never worked a day in their life. They know every government assistance program and they abuse the system. (these people are a hell of a lot more prevalent than Dems will ever admit)

Doing things the fair play way usually leads to a spike in productivity (see Reagan and Clinton once the Congress turned Repub) because go getters feel like they'll be rewarded for their efforts. But, human nature being what it is, the haves start showing their ass to the have nots. And greed, despite what Gordon Gecko may say, does not work. It is not good. It will not save the USA, it will destroy it.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:21 PM

True mark of a moderate president = both ends of the spectrum are unhappy, middle is happy

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:31 PM

Your middle is happy.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:32 PM

Would a moderate president have reached out to a moderate republican to pass Obamacare? You would think so.

But when Scott Brown won and they lost their 60th vote...they didn't go to a moderate republican. They didn't work with the other side of the aisle. No...they passed the f**king thing through reconciliation. So this whole thing about Obama being a moderate president? No...that's a bunch of BS. Just because Obama doesn't join gay pride parades in a Speedo doesn't mean he's pissing off the looney left.

#7 The Saltman

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:33 PM

I'm not happy and I'm in the middle like malcolm.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:41 PM

Sure G5 when they walked out of the White House meeting in January and announced the web site you could donate funds to to defeat "Obamacare" that was really a feather in the cap of the "moderate" Republican willingness.

You need to face the simple fact that saying no to everything Obama wanted - in any way, shape or form - was the election strategy. No one from the Republicans were interested in anything put forward except people like Snowe. Stop blaming Obama when ALL OF US KNOW that this is basically the REPUBLICAN PLAN from the mid 90's, but now it's evil and socialist and going to somehow bankrupt us.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:47 PM

I am disappointed in a lot of the social stuff I wanted to see done, but then again Clinton tried doing that as soon as he was reelected and it went nowhere fast.

Unless we elect a King I don't understand how the President is going to somehow lead a nation that thinks that Global Warming is a myth because God gave us everything to use as we please into being, you know, forward looking. For crying out loud all he did was get Republican health insurance reform passed and he's the Black Stalin.

#10 g5jamz

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:49 PM

If you go to a meeting and you're told what the outcome is going to be...what's the point. They probably knew reconciliation was going to be trotted out IN that meeting.

Still...where did that stop him from reaching out to moderate/liberal republicans.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:52 PM

I think you are missing the point. The way I know this is that you mentioned a meeting setup by Obama to reach out to Republicans, then mention that he didn't do it, and you justify that by using the word "probably" when I can tell you that a meeting "certainly" occured.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:54 PM

What concessions were offered from Obama, because it sure as hell were a ton of concessions from the republicans due to the sheer fact of a lack of votes. Think about it...all he needed was one RINO. One.

#13 natty

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:58 PM

If you thought Obama was just going to come in on his white horse and right all the wrong in DC, whether he was willing or able, then you're simply naive.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:06 PM

1. Looks like Meat got another email that helps him explain things easily to his friends
2. Not-Awesome is trolling the shit outta y'all.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:19 PM

Barack Obama was going to be that guy, you know? The guy that shook up Washington. That changed the culture of American politics, that.....brought the change the country needed.


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That is all.


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