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I'm not tired of defending Obama...but I am done.


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#31 venom

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 03:41 PM

What dots? You don't think the Fed Chairman should stay the same? The generals? The people in charge of things where steady steering is vital to the nation's best interests?


they steadily steer the nation towards their best interests, not ours. they gotta keep the same individuals in positions if they want to stay on course to the overall agenda.

Edited by venom, 21 October 2010 - 03:46 PM.


#32 ChucktownK

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 03:55 PM

:bigear:

*Listening to random people make excuses as to why a president can't do his job



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Posted 21 October 2010 - 04:10 PM

No they're not. They're opposites. Dems believe in fair share. ey see the world thusly...picture 20 tables in a room with 100 hamburgers. The top two tables have 50 hamburgers, and the bottom 10 have five to split amongst them. The Democrat says there is no way this scenario is the result of anything fair anprogram and they abuse the system. (these people are a hell of a lot more prevalent than Dems will ever admit)

Doing things the fair play way usually leads to a spike in productivity (see Reagan and Clinton once the Congress turned Repub) because go getters feel like they'll be rewarded for their efforts. But, human natuwill not save the USA, it will destroy it.

Can I get cheese on my burgers?

#34 blackcatgrowl

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:10 PM

I bash "O" from time to time, but honestly...


Is Obama's perceived failure a problem with Obama, or a problem with those who had false expecations of one man?

How can the people who voted for him be satisfied when there were impossible agendas expected?

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:45 PM

those people are a frightfully small percentage of voters. A lot of people on the left that are concerned with environmental and war issues are disappointed, in the same way that all the fringe supporters are when their person gets elected and has to rule from the center. When you hear about a 47% percent approval rating you know that 45 percent of the disapproval is from the people that didn't vote for him and 10 percent is from the lefties that are disappointed but will not vote for anyone they percieve worse.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:52 PM

those people are a frightfully small percentage of voters.


Says who?

132,618,580 million people voted in 2008.

http://www.reuters.c...E6465E220100507

Enrollment has set a record each month since reaching 31.78 million in December 2008


31 million people were on food stamps. Say half of them are kids.... 15.5 million people are 11% of the voter turn out.

Do you know what margin of victory Obama had? 8,538,559 was the difference.

http://www.cnn.com/E...ults/president/

There were more people on Food Stamps, than voted Obama in.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:56 PM

those people are a frightfully small percentage of voters. A lot of people on the left that are concerned with environmental and war issues are disappointed, in the same way that all the fringe supporters are when their person gets elected and has to rule from the center. When you hear about a 47% percent approval rating you know that 45 percent of the disapproval is from the people that didn't vote for him and 10 percent is from the lefties that are disappointed but will not vote for anyone they percieve worse.


If by those people, you mean those that thought Obama was going to pay for their house, then yes I agree. But a relatively large percentage of his supporters had unrealistic expectations of him, including the OP. In a democratic republic, one man can only do so much.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 06:06 PM

But a relatively large percentage of his supporters had unrealistic expectations of him, including the OP. In a democratic republic, one man can only do so much.


Really? Hmmm we went around for 10 months preaching hope and change. Maybe he should have just bashed Bush the entire time.

Why is it being naive to hold a man accountable? He made his bed, not me.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 06:21 PM

you could also argue the establishment made his bed for him, and he's just along for the ride, more or less. it was only the single most impressive presidential campaign of all time.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 06:45 PM

Really? Hmmm we went around for 10 months preaching hope and change. Maybe he should have just bashed Bush the entire time.

Why is it being naive to hold a man accountable? He made his bed, not me.


Somehow, I don't think they're hearin' ya dude.



Prolly just denial.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:02 PM

What concessions were offered from Obama


Obama outlines concessions to Republicans


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Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:55 PM

From day 1, republicans have said no to everything he has said, even when he's used their own ideas!!!

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:33 PM

From day 1, republicans have said no to everything he has said, even when he's used their own ideas!!!


Not when he wants to expand or create new wars. Wake up.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:37 PM


Obama outlines concessions to Republicans


Theres a link that will never be clicked. Next time just post a link to naked Palin photoshops please.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:49 PM

Really? Hmmm we went around for 10 months preaching hope and change. Maybe he should have just bashed Bush the entire time.

Why is it being naive to hold a man accountable? He made his bed, not me.



You should read the history of political campaigns in the US. They usually come up with those neat little slogans that are catchy, but meaningless once the campaign is over.

Tippecanoe and Tyler, Too — 1840 U.S. presidential slogan of William Henry Harrison and his Vice President, John Tyler.
54" 40" or Fight — James Polk, 1844. Referring to capturing the "Oregon Territory" from Canada
We Polked you in '44, We shall Pierce you in '52 — 1852 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of democrat Franklin Pierce; the '44 referred to the 1844 election of fellow democrat James K. Polk as president.
Don't swap horses in midstream — 1864 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Abraham Lincoln. Also used by George W. Bush, with detractors parodying it as "Don't change horsemen in mid-apocalypse." The slogan was also used for comic effect in the film Wag the Dog.
This is a White Man's Government! — Horatio Seymour 1868 Democratic Presidential Candidate
Vote as You Shot — 1868 presidential campaign slogan of Ulysses S. Grant[1]
Grant beat Davis - Greeley bailed him — 1872 anti-Horace Greeley and pro-Ulysses S. Grant slogan, which references Jefferson Davis
Grant us another term — 1872 Ulysses S. Grant presidential re-election campaign slogan
Tilden or Blood! — 1877 slogan of Samuel Tilden supporters after the election conflict that led to the Compromise of 1877
Ma, Ma where's my Pa? — 1884 U.S. presidential slogan used by the James Blaine supporters against his opponent Grover Cleveland, the slogan referred to fact Cleveland had fathered an illegitimate child in 1874. When Cleveland was elected President, his supporters added the line, "Gone to the White House, Ha, Ha, Ha!"
Rum, Romanism and Rebellion — U.S. presidential election, 1884, Republicans attack opposition for views against prohibition, membership by Catholic immigrants and southerners.
Grandfather's hat fits Ben — 1888 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Benjamin Harrison, whose grandfather William Henry Harrison was elected U.S. president in 1840.
Four more years of the full dinner pail — 1900 U.S. presidential slogan of William McKinley
Full Dinner Pail — William McKinley in 1900
Let Well Enough Alone — 1900 presidential campaign slogan of William McKinley.
He kept us out of war — Woodrow Wilson 1916 U.S. Presidential campaign slogan, also "He proved the pen mightier than the sword"
Keep Cool and Keep Coolidge — The 1924 presidential campaign slogan of Calvin Coolidge.
Hoo but Hoover? — 1928 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Herbert Hoover.[1]
A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage - Herbert Hoover
Hoover we trusted, now we're busted. — 1932 campaign slogan against incumbent Herbert Hoover.
I propose (to the American people) a New Deal — 1932 slogan by democratic presidential candidate Franklin D. Roosevelt.
We are turning the corner — 1932 campaign slogan in the depths of the Great Depression by republican president Herbert Hoover.
Defeat the New Deal and Its Reckless Spending — 1936 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Alfred M. Landon[1]
Let's Get Another Deck — 1936 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Alfred M. Landon[1]
Let's Make It a Landon-Slide — 1936 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Alfred M. Landon[1]
Life, Liberty, and Landon — 1936 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Alfred M. Landon[1]
Remember Hoover! — 1936 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Franklin D. Roosevelt
Sunflowers die in November — 1936 U.S. presidential slogan of Franklin D. Roosevelt, reference to his opponent Alf Landon, whose home state of Kansas uses the sunflower as its official state flower.
No Fourth Term Either — 1940 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Wendell L. Willkie[1]
Roosevelt for Ex-President — 1940 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Wendell Willkie
There's No Indispensable Man — 1940 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Wendell L. Willkie[1]
Washington Wouldn't, Grant Couldn't, Roosevelt Shouldn't — 1940 anti-Franklin D. Roosevelt slogan, referring to Roosevelt running for a third term.
We Want Willkie — 1940 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Wendell L. Willkie[1]
Give 'Em Hell, Harry! — 1948 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Harry Truman
I'm just wild about Harry — 1948 U.S. presidential slogan of Harry S. Truman, taken from a 1921 popular song title written by Noble Sissle and Eubie Blake.
Pour it on 'em, Harry! — 1948 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Harry S. Truman
I like Ike — 1952 U.S presidential campaign slogan of Dwight D. Eisenhower.
I still like Ike — 1956 U.S presidential campaign slogan of Dwight D. Eisenhower
Peace and Prosperity — 1956 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Dwight D. Eisenhower
In Your Heart, You Know He's Right — 1964 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Barry Goldwater
In Your Guts, You Know He's Nuts — An unofficial anti-Barry Goldwater slogan, parodying "In Your Heart, You know He's Right", 1964.
Go clean for Gene — 1968 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Eugene McCarthy
Don't Switch Dicks in the Middle of a Screw, Vote Nixon in '72 — Parody of the old saying used by backers of George McGovern in 1972.
Bozo and the Pineapple —Uncomplimentary name given to the 1976 U.S. presidential campaign ticket of Gerald Ford and Bob Dole.
Let's make America great again - 1980 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Ronald Reagan
Morning Again in America — Ronald Reagan Slogan for 1984 Presidential election
It's Time to Change America — a theme of the 1992 U.S. presidential campaign of Bill Clinton
It's The Economy, Stupid. - 1992 presidential campaign of Bill Clinton
Ross for Boss — a 1992 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of independent presidential candidate H. Ross Perot.
Yes, America Can! - 2004 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of George W. Bush
Yes We Can — 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Barack Obama.
Change We Can Believe In — 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Barack Obama.
Hope and Change - Barack Obama
Country First — 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of John McCain.



My favorite is Hoover's " a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage". That one didn't work out to well. :)


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