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When Jon Fox came to Carolina he wanted to do two things.

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Trgo has NO power over Fox. Fox agrees to whatever gameplan his staff brings him OR he offers up suggestions. Fox ultimately approved Bend But Don't Break.

He also agrees on Davidson's game plan that worked last year. Im not defending fox I think he is way conservative my self but having good coaches around you has alot to do with it too.

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He did. Think about it. Think how we started this year with more blitzes and pressure from other spots then just the 4 Dlinemen then in the second half poof gone. I dont know why but it happened. Even in the half time adjustment with AZ we played a hell of alot better in the second half. Fox is a coach and as much as everyone wants to think dose not have time to come up with a game plan thats why he has coordinators.

I'm not saying Fox comes up with the game plan, although neither you nor I have enough inside knowledge to really say how involved he is. However, Fox is the head man. Just like my boss, or your boss, he's going to tell his employees when they are doing something he doesn't like. I see no reason to think he would allow Trgovac to continue coordinating the defense in a manner that he didn't approve of.

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I'm not saying Fox comes up with the game plan, although neither you nor I have enough inside knowledge to really say how involved he is. However, Fox is the head man. Just like my boss, or your boss, he's going to tell his employees when they are doing something he doesn't like. I see no reason to think he would allow Trgovac to continue coordinating the defense in a manner that he didn't approve of.

Sometimes its not as simple as approving or not approving something. Yea he can say dont run that play now but as far as a game plane or even coaching of the Defense he cant do all that. Just not possible. Just like your boss cant make everyone do exactly what he wants at the same time. Thats why the right coordinators are so important but at this point if he cant make it work with Trgo he might be gone next year. The writings on the wall with the coaches not getting extensions

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Sometimes its not as simple as approving or not approving something. Yea he can say dont run that play now but as far as a game plane or even coaching of the Defense he cant do all that. Just not possible. Just like your boss cant make everyone do exactly what he wants at the same time. Thats why the right coordinators are so important but at this point if he cant make it work with Trgo he might be gone next year. The writings on the wall with the coaches not getting extensions

If your point were true, and no head coach had time to mess with the game plan, then there wouldn't be any head coaches that called their own plays.

I think a lot of us Panther fans wanted to believe the Fox hype after 2003. The media was making him out to be some kind of genius. Anyway, that's my theory for why people have had trouble holding him accountable ever since then.

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He also agrees on Davidson's game plan that worked last year. Im not defending fox I think he is way conservative my self but having good coaches around you has alot to do with it too.

Davidson's "plan" didn't work too well when Jake was hurt. Davidson has the luxury of having the best running game in the league. If we still had Foster, we wouldn't have done as well. Of course Fox is going to go with the run. It's his philosophy. Both Trgo and Davidson are great coaches...but one is not working with Fox the right way and it's both of their faults.

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Cowher 2010!!!!

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If your point were true, and no head coach had time to mess with the game plan, then there wouldn't be any head coaches that called their own plays.

I think a lot of us Panther fans wanted to believe the Fox hype after 2003. The media was making him out to be some kind of genius. Anyway, that's my theory for why people have had trouble holding him accountable ever since then.

Sometimes its good to read before you post cause I said that he could be involved with calling plays but there would be no reason to have coordinators if he made the gameplan himself. Even the most controlling of coaches have coordinators to come up with gameplans.

Davidson's "plan" didn't work too well when Jake was hurt. Davidson has the luxury of having the best running game in the league. If we still had Foster, we wouldn't have done as well. Of course Fox is going to go with the run. It's his philosophy. Both Trgo and Davidson are great coaches...but one is not working with Fox the right way and it's both of their faults.

Your right his plan didn't work last season when Jake when down and never could have been that we had 4 different QBs starting that year. I also guess it just so happened that we had one hell of a line this year also. Not that Davidson was a O-line coach or anything.

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Sometimes its good to read before you post cause I said that he could be involved with calling plays but there would be no reason to have coordinators if he made the gameplan himself. Even the most controlling of coaches have coordinators to come up with gameplans.

Maybe you're the one who should read. I never said that Fox "made the gameplan himself." The only thing I'm saying is that head coaches can be INVOLVED in the game planning. I haven't been arguing anything else.

I've said it before but if Fox didn't approve of Trgovac's game plans he would fire him. Even if Fox weren't involved with the game planning at all, he can still evaluate Trgovac's performance in general.

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Maybe you're the one who should read. I never said that Fox "made the gameplan himself." The only thing I'm saying is that head coaches can be INVOLVED in the game planning. I haven't been arguing anything else.

I've said it before but if Fox didn't approve of Trgovac's game plans he would fire him. Even if Fox weren't involved with the game planning at all, he can still evaluate Trgovac's performance in general.

Then why say you disagree with me when you are basically saying what I said before. That coaches dont have time to come up with Gameplans. Because everything else you are saying is a moot point because thats what I said. Yes Fox dose look over them but as far as making the gameplan thats left to the coordinators. Look at the 180 the Giants took when spanglola or however you spell his name took over. Night and day there.

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