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If we lost the Arizona game ...

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This.

In the last 7 games of the season, including playoffs our defense gave up 45, 31, 23, 10, 34, 31, 33 points.

Jake had a bad last game, the defense had a bad last half.

Jake had less TD passes in the 2nd half of the season, but threw more INT's in the second half of the season.

His completion % was higher though in the second half.

So really he didn't exactly have a stellar year.

I do agree though, trust me, our defense is a bigger issue than Jake's play.

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If we had lost the first Arizona game we would be chattering about beating the Steelers in the Super Bowl right now. :)

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I'd still want Turdo gone. I probably wouldn't have been so angry at Delhomme though, provided he didn't turn the ball over 6 times.

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That really depends on how the score came to be 20-21. If we played like complete ass... I would still be concerned. If we played damned good football and they simply played 1 point better... then hell no I would not be as pissed off as I am now.

:iagree: The big issue I have is not that the Panthers lost, (yes that did suck), but how they lost. They laid an egg, and were horrible!! I thought this Panther team was past that, but apparently not.

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did we play hard or collapse in the 4th quarter and give up 21 unanswered points?

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would be more pissed at a select group. we would have been 1 or 2 plays away from being in the cards shoes right now. right now pissed im at what happened, but its not like we had a chance in the 2nd half and let it get away, left to be cursing 1 or 2 calls keeping us from the nfccg. this game was a mentdown where EVERYONE (or damn close) gets a slice.

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Our defense is a liabilty. It has been for years. We have won in spite of it and lost because of it.

We are sitting at home watching other teams going to the superbowl because we have a defense that is too soft.

Trgo is the problem. Fox/hurney allowing him to continue makes it their problem as well. If what they were doing wasn't working during the season and they could fix it, why wouldn't they? They got too happy just winning the games and didn't look at the weaknesses and try to fix them. What that did was put a ceiling over them that was far too close to the ground.

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nope, I still believe we're the better team.

our 43 is better than their 43?

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I've wanted Turd canned for years. The Arizona game just put a spotlight on all the things I hate about his defense.

How can you blame the defense on that loss? Our offense gave up 6 turnovers and we only lost by 20 points.

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