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Lets narrow it down a bit, what players would you not trade for a first rounder?

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Beason, Smith, Stewart, Williams, Gross, Otah, Gamble, Davis

I would trade kalil easily, because i think hangman is more than serviceable, and we could replace kalil with another 2nd round pick center.

I would also trade Harris easily, because there are so many better Safties that could be had in the 1st round that run 4.4 40's and have ball hawking skills.. that are not liabilities in the pass game, and hit just as hard as Harris, a la, Palamalu, or Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, etc.

You guys kill me with this stuff.

Harris is not the big liability in our secondary.

He isn't the guy getting beat. Or the guy getting caught looking in the backfield when he needs to be over top.

And a 4.4 40 doesn't mean that you can play the game and be smart about. Whats that kid Chicago tried to replace Harris with? Manning kid? He was a sub 4.4 guy. What is he doing now? Riding pine.

Like I said in another thread. Harris isn't the guy you need to blame the secondary breakdowns on. Actually he is one of the consistent individuals back there.

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kalil is one of the top Centers in the league, notice how our rungame suffered when he was the only one out.

You can't replace his leadership tho, that is what increases his value. This is His and Beason's defense.

Harris is still pretty young. So with proper secondary coaching his coverage abilities can improve.

Kalil is turning into what everybody predicted he would be before he was drafted. If he can stay healthy he'll probably end up a perennial pro bowler.

Here's my list:

Beason

Smith

Williams

Stewart

Gross

Otah

Kalil

Wharton

Davis

Harris

that's it.

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I'm always wary of trading any player for draft picks, even high ones. The only time I approve of it is in situations like with Peppers, or if the deal is absolutely too good to refuse. The problem is that you're trading a proven player for one that you hope will be good in the NFL. The draft is no sure thing, and that's an understatement.

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Gross, Kalil, Wharton, Vincent, Otah, Williams, Stewart, Smith, Beason, Gamble, Connor (because I think he'll be good), and finally, my man, Rhys Lloyd.

I love Rhys an all but a 1st rounder? no kicker is worth a 1st rounder.

And Wharton? you could get better OG in the 2nd than Wharton IMO.

my list is:

Otah, Williams, Stewart, Smith, Beason,

thats it.

And BTW if its a top 5 pick I would sell Otah and Beason. Andre Smith is just to valuable. Also Orakpo.

JMHO

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I love Rhys an all but a 1st rounder? no kicker is worth a 1st rounder.

And Wharton? you could get better OG in the 2nd than Wharton IMO.

my list is:

Otah, Williams, Stewart, Smith, Beason,

thats it.

And BTW if its a top 5 pick I would sell Otah and Beason. Andre Smith is just to valuable. Also Orakpo.

JMHO

Bro it's not about looking at raw talent. It's about giving up what you have in order to try to improve based on picking talent in the first round.

I would not trade Beason for a draft pick that has a chance to not pan out and be a bust.

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I love Rhys an all but a 1st rounder? no kicker is worth a 1st rounder.

And Wharton? you could get better OG in the 2nd than Wharton IMO.

my list is:

Otah, Williams, Stewart, Smith, Beason,

thats it.

And BTW if its a top 5 pick I would sell Otah and Beason. Andre Smith is just to valuable. Also Orakpo.

JMHO

Rhys was a joke.

Otah and Kalil are future Pro Bowl caliber guys. No way I'm trading them or Beason. Wharton is one of the best OGs in the game.

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Smith, any of our starting OL, Williams, Beason and Gamble.

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