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#1 Kurb

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:39 AM

Buckner elborated on this yesterday in some discussion on a local radio show.

At first I was shocked, but as his rant continued it made more sense.


He said under DelRio the D-line knew they had to beat the man in from of them. Buck and Jinx had too or a guy named Shane Burton would come in and do it in their place. Pep and Ruck had too, or that cat named Al Wallace certainly would. He continued that after the first year or so under Turgo, that accountablitly started to reside, and a bit of complacency started to inch into the D-line because they knew he wouldn't replace the starters.

He said several times that Del-Rio ran a TON more soft zone schemes relying on the D-line making a play and Turgo does ALOT more blitzing and man2man. The difference being the D-line making plays for DelRio and not making plays for Turgovac.:eek:

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:44 AM

Would you want to piss off Del Rio?

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:47 AM

Yeah I believe this. Fox doesn't replace people, at all. Our guys need to know that if they can't produce, someone will.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:54 AM

How much of that is also the talent level behind the starters on the defensive line?

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:24 AM

Buckner elborated on this yesterday in some discussion on a local radio show.

At first I was shocked, but as his rant continued it made more sense.


He said under DelRio the D-line knew they had to beat the man in from of them. Buck and Jinx had too or a guy named Shane Burton would come in and do it in their place. Pep and Ruck had too, or that cat named Al Wallace certainly would. He continued that after the first year or so under Turgo, that accountablitly started to reside, and a bit of complacency started to inch into the D-line because they knew he wouldn't replace the starters.

He said several times that Del-Rio ran a TON more soft zone schemes relying on the D-line making a play and Turgo does ALOT more blitzing and man2man. The difference being the D-line making plays for DelRio and not making plays for Turgovac.:eek:

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For whatever reason, the fans on this forum seem to think that Turdo likes soft zone defense. This is NOT true. Turdy was interviewed about his own personal defensive preferences, and he made it clear that he liked man-to-man coverage and blitzing a lot more than zone defense. Turdums just goes along with Fox's wishes.

Edited by pantherj, 21 January 2009 - 09:26 AM.


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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:27 AM

How much of that is also the talent level behind the starters on the defensive line?



And someone catches the truth behind the problem.

It's not so much Turgo as it is lack or high quality depth/starters on the defensive line. First it was the lack of depth, now it is the lack of talent from start to finish.

Want to know why our blitzes never seem to work ? Notice none of the D-linemen beat anyone on a consistant basis.

Get a influx of talent on the D-line. Some high motor depth and our D would head back to it's winning ways.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:32 AM

I can see this. Its the attitude of the team. Really if your getting pressure from your front 4 you dont need to blitz.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:33 AM

I can see this. Its the attitude of the team. Really if your getting pressure from your front 4 you dont need to blitz.


If you are getting pressure from the front 4 you look like a genius when you blitz as well.:iagree:

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:36 AM

And someone catches the truth behind the problem.

It's not so much Turgo as it is lack or high quality depth/starters on the defensive line. First it was the lack of depth, now it is the lack of talent from start to finish.

Want to know why our blitzes never seem to work ? Notice none of the D-linemen beat anyone on a consistant basis.

Get a influx of talent on the D-line. Some high motor depth and our D would head back to it's winning ways.


You mean hold the players accountable for their poor play and not make the coach a scapegoat?

That's not how we roll

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:47 AM

I remember that under Del Rio. When it kept on under Fox I figured it was Fox's style not really the DC. I haven't watched enough Jaguars games to know, but the last one I did was when they beat Pittsburgh the season before last and Del Rio's D was aggressive start to finish.

If our talent on our D line is so bad, who has the responsibility of recognizing that and altering the game plan?