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#16 WhiteBoysCanRun22

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 11:38 AM

The biggest thing that is bugging me right now is the moves we've made in the draft these past 2 years, 2 picks I considered straight up bone head 1 has a potential to hurt, but the first two look to be devistating.

1, traded this years first for Everett Brown in the 2nd, straight up bust this is by far our worst pick in the fox and hurney era, with that said this is no knock on brown he's done everything we've asked, problem is he's just not big enough for DE in a 4-3 scheme.

2, Edwards this one keeps getting worse with the worse the panthers play, you think Edwards is worth the 34th pick in the 2011 draft because right now that looks to be where we will be picking. Bust with insult to injury.

3, this one remains to be seen but Jimmy Clausen can't even handle a snap right now, seriously WTF? If he can't handle a snap Edwards is looking like a better option at QB then him.




And lastly I typed this from a iPod in the middle of nowhere in Australia so excuse the bad grammar and what not.


Honestly, no one's ever considered a "bust" until they are in the NFL for 3-4 years. QBs hardly ever play spectacular until their 2nd or 3rd year (Manning wasn't that great during his rookie season)...for the last time, Edwards was drafted as a "project".

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 11:43 AM

Can't label a guy a bust until his 4th year, so this thread is pointless.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 11:54 AM

Its too early to call Brown and Edwards bust..

but giving up a 2nd round pick for Armanti edwards..could go down as a terrible move.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:10 PM

Honestly, no one's ever considered a "bust" until they are in the NFL for 3-4 years. QBs hardly ever play spectacular until their 2nd or 3rd year (Manning wasn't that great during his rookie season)...for the last time, Edwards was drafted as a "project".


Manning was a beast his rookie season.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:15 PM

I have forgotten about E. brown. Had so much promise last year and he is not even in the top 10 in tackles and has no sacks.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:20 PM

Even if they do end up being busts(as said before, you can't label them that for a few seasons), it doesn't really hurt us long term.

If Clausen/Edwards/Brown were top draft picks that cost a lot of money guaranteed, then sure you could say it really hurt the team, but they were all 2nd round picks with cheap contracts.

They've for sure made some mistakes recently, but it's nothing one good off season/draft can't fix.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:25 PM

The Rams, Chiefs, and Lions are all slowly getting better due to all their years getting top draft picks. Some took time to develope, some were good right away. That said, we should NOT trade down this year. We're an average team. Adding a first round talent could work out great for us. You know who trades down? Great teams.

As for us...Brown is indeed a bust. Time will not improve anything for him. He is too small and is not a Colt. Armanti gets at least 2011 to show us something. J-Stew was good day one and was worth the pick. Otah has the talent and did day one...but looks like a constant injury. Clausen is too soon to tell. You learn NOTHING by sitting on a bench.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:37 PM

Armanti would be the best QB on this team, but Fox refuses to try it. He's looked solid at the position in extremely limited opportunities.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:39 PM

You learn NOTHING by sitting on a bench.


Incorrect

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 01:17 PM

To be fair, Brown did get a nice 3rd down hurry that forced the QB to throw the ball into the ground (was about 1/2 a second from being a sack) and got our defense off the field, so he did about as much as anybody else, including Greg Hardy, on defense yesterday.

Anyway, Catman is right, you can't really judge any of these picks yet, and everybody should have known at AE was a project from the beginning, so we my not know about him for 2 more years. The draft is always about the future, and if you do find a guy who can start right away and be really solid, that's just gravy.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 01:21 PM

The Rams, Chiefs, and Lions are all slowly getting better due to all their years getting top draft picks. Some took time to develope, some were good right away. That said, we should NOT trade down this year. We're an average team. Adding a first round talent could work out great for us. You know who trades down? Great teams.

As for us...Brown is indeed a bust. Time will not improve anything for him. He is too small and is not a Colt. Armanti gets at least 2011 to show us something. J-Stew was good day one and was worth the pick. Otah has the talent and did day one...but looks like a constant injury. Clausen is too soon to tell. You learn NOTHING by sitting on a bench.


I think those teams are getting better from drafting better overall.not just the top picks..because most of those top picks from the last coaches are gone.

If we are picking #2 overall I would trade down.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 01:38 PM

Like others have said, you win some you lose some. Lets look back in another year or two and decide if they were busts.

We have had some guys not contribute but we had some guys in the 6th round who are over acheiving. Seems to me it balances itself out.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 03:00 PM

James Anderson looked like a bust for a couple of years, but he's making more plays than Beason right now.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 03:30 PM

How would our undersized DEs like Everette Brown and Hilee Taylor fare as 3-4 OLBs? It was mentioned that Brown is too small for a 4-3 DE, but he looks like a perfect 3-4 OLB. Same goes for Hilee. Too small for a 4-3, but no denying the kid has a knack for getting to the QB.

#30 MadHatter

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 03:42 PM

Funny you should mention Stewart because he too was not worth what we gave up for him IMO. Otah as well if he keeps this injury business up.

As far as Capt, Hayden, and Godfrey they are sketchy at best (Martin I do like however). Goodson its too early to tell. Its not like we have the Colts FO there good not great.


Stew is a beast. Do not blame his lack of production on anyone other than the OLine.

Williams looks like poo behind this OLine as well.

The Big Uglies should be required to turn in their Man Cards this season...they are playing like a powderpuff team.


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