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[rodeo]

could they not find ANYTHING better to kill funding for? this is something i've thought we needed for a long time. transportation in this country is dreadful, and a high speed rail system would be awesome.

http://thinkprogress...govs-rail-jobs/

you guessed it, more tea party candidates.

[Humble Dew]

And an elevator to the moon would be cool too.

[rodeo]

fug infrastructure! real jobs are in the service industry!

[Matt Foley]

and an elevator to the moon would be cool too.

lmao

[pstall]

i do think infra has been the low lying fruit for 10 yrs now. if these guys are gonna cut funding, i'm cool with that. but cut out reduncancy's and overlap before something that could lead to jobs.
stubborn jackasses

[Humble Dew]

The Government does not create jobs.

How many stimulus bills do we need until people figure that out? 2-3? Until we are broke and the Socialists have won? Oh yeah, that's the plan. Nevermind. Maybe while we are at it we can build a Disney type walkway under the Ocean, that way the failed socialist policies of Europe can get here quicker.

[I Registered To Post This]

fugin' infrastructure, how does it work?

hey loOK OVER THERE SOCIALIST SOCIALIST BIG GUBMINT

-Republicans/Jangler

[Gazi]

Where are the jobs? The question that will haunt Boehner and company this summer.

[I Registered To Post This]

gj teahadists, now you have to actually govern and make decisions and stuff.

[cantrell]

gj teahadists, now you have to actually govern and make decisions and stuff.

the fug are you talking about? the goal was to win not to actually do anything positive lol

[Humble Dew]

I believe the "high speed rail" from Cincinnati to Columbus was discussed already once in here. You could drive it quicker. But yes lets waste more money on something that wouldn't solve anything.

Edited by Jangler, 06 November 2010 - 01:29 PM.

[Squirrel]

Spend the money on real infrastrure Highways and bridges. High speed rail at the moment isnt needed and wont be needed for another 20 years.

[Humble Dew]

Something to consider when the federal government and unions are involved with anything...

http://www.abc.org/N...22_Billion.aspx

Boston’s Central Artery/Tunnel Project, a massive, federally funded project to build freeway tunnels underneath the city and Boston Harbor, will cost $22 billion including interest payments, according to a July 17 story in the Boston Globe. The project, known as the “Big Dig,” was originally budgeted to cost $2.8 billion.

Despite receiving federal funding, the Big Dig was subject to a union-only project labor agreement (PLA) that required project contractors and subcontractors agree to recognize unions as the representatives of their employees on the job, use the union hiring hall to obtain workers, pay union wages and benefits, and obey the union's work rules, job classifications and arbitration procedures. The project was plagued by delays and problems throughout its history.

According to the article, in order to cover the cost of the project, Massachusetts will have to pay close to $600 million annually over the next several years, taking money away from the maintenance and repair of roads and bridges across the state.

In addition, that article pointed out that the Big Dig project, which represents only 7.5 miles of an 11,000 mile highway system, has sucked up nearly 40 percent of the state highway funds over the last 17 years. In order to recoup that loss, the state has been forced to borrow money to meet the current needs of the highway system.

Because of the state’s mounting debt, 80 percent of workers for the Highway Department are being paid with borrowed money, compared to only 14 percent before the Big Dig, the Globe noted. State officials are hesitant to raise taxes, but that may be the only way to fight the massive pile of debt caused by the Big Dig project, the article said.

[mmmbeans]

Spend the money on real infrastrure Highways and bridges. High speed rail at the moment isnt needed and wont be needed for another 20 years.

out of curiosity, how long do you think it would take to erect a true rail infrastructure if we started now?



i'd say 20+ years.

[mmmbeans]

Something to consider when the federal government and unions are involved with anything...

http://www.abc.org/N...22_Billion.aspx

jangler, how do you propose large scale public projects be carried out without government involvement?