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Coach John Fox shifts blame to Panthers' 'personnel people'

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Pretty much tells you the Fox/Hurney "package deal" days are over.

Now that would be a fun feud. "I just want to put the blame on the personnel people except for my boy Marty Hurney. That guy is the tops, but seriously everyone else involved is a grade A moron."

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Fox can STFU.

He saw what was happening in the offseason. He saw who we drafted. He knew what team he was going to have to work with. Richardson gave him the option to opt out of the last year of his contract and go look for work elsewhere and he chose to stay.

Fox finally snapped and said something he shouldn't have. I thank Fowler for making this already known story more public. Maybe now JR will pull a Jerry Jones and open his mouth. Fox said multiple times in his presser that he's "not getting into that" in terms of players we may see soon and that we'll have to ask the person in charge of stuff like that if you really have to know. Bitter? Sure. Angry? Sure. Telling the truth? Looks like it.

Fox basically confirms what everyone here has said to an exaggerated extent, and now these no-life nerds till wanna throw their little rocks. We should definitely be called the carolinapantieshuddle.com

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The bucs got rid of there head coach and almost all there vets last year and still seemed to win 3 games and score more points. Seems to me like its the coaching that is failing not the players. Im gonna assume when Davidson runs 2 run plays that get stuffed and then comes back with a 2 WR set its the players fault.

Lets face it. Fox cant win without outstanding talent on both sides of the ball. The reason for that is he is a avg coach. Nothing great about him.

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Does he have final say on the player decisions? No.

Does he have input? Historically, yes.

But as much as he wants to bellow about the players, if the stories of the coaching staff half-assing their jobs this season is true that falls squarely on Fox's shoulders and no one else's.

And for the record, buck passing isn't exactly a hallmark of great leadership.

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Fox has had his mistakes and miscues. But, I wholeheartedly side with Fox on this issue. Although Clausen was considered great value at our spot what we really needed was a vet QB to mentor Moore or be able to step in and control the offense if Moore stumbled (which he fell flat on his face). Giving up what would be a high 2nd in this years draft for a project in Armanti Edwards. When Gilyard, Ford, Price, Williams were still on the board?! We could've kept the draft pick and signed or traded for a WR for CHEAP!! Not to mention some DTs that hit the market we've could've gotten for cheap also that could've helped us out. Richardson has turned into Al Davis this year.

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If you're a member of the tinfoil hat club, this is where you start asking if he's trying to get fired.

I'm not a member, but I'll admit the thought has crossed my mind.

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Fox has a right to be angry.

However, he is an NFL coach.

He shouldn't have to have players that fit his system to be successful.

He should be able to coach to fit his players.

With that said, I can definitely see where Fox is coming from and frankly, he can almost say whatever he wants about the organization's management at this point and I won't have a problem with it.

The Fat Cat hung this team out to dry from the get-go, plain and simple.

Let me add a balancing statement to that to though.

Ahem.

Mr. Fox.

Nobody cares if you don't think guys like Jimmy or Armanti fit your system-it's your job to coach them all the same. Oh, and by coach, I don't mean try to make them fit in your system-as I said before, it's your job to coach in a way that fits your players, not the other way around.

The square peg doesn't go in the circle hole.

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LOL. It's like some of you all don't even follow the team. You just talk out of your asses. Did you not know that Fox and Richardson have NOT been on speaking terms for the past couple years? Did you NOT see that Fox didn't come to the presser for both Clausen and Edwards? Any fan who knows just a sliver about Fox, could look@ the lack of depth on the O line and see this was NOT a Fox team. Evertytime a player didn't join you in the mutual fellating of Richardson, he was called all sorts of rediculous names. This is JR and his lap dog Hurney's doing. Getting mad @ a guy for wanting to make money, in the last year of his contract is just "butt-hurt" homerism. I have been a Fire Fox guy for a while... but this poo is NOT his fault.

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I also think that most folks recognize that it isn't something we do all the time like some of the perennial bottom feeders. They know that once the CBA is signed, Richardson will open up the wallet.

No other team in the league has treated their players and coaches this way this year. It seems like every team tried to get better (okay maybe not the Bills) despite the CBA. So to me and I bet a lot of players see that JR is willing to sacrifice a year of a career for money. And what will happen the next time a disagreement between players and owners comes up? No, this is gonna haunt the Panthers for some time. IMHO

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Never thought that we would see a time that between Fox and Steve Smith that some people would think that Fox was the more vocal and irrational off the hip guy right now.

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remember the ending to butch cassidy and the sundance kid:

now imagine: That Jake Delhomme and Fox are the Butch and the Sundance kid... Jake Delhomme ran out approximately around the time of the Arizona game and Fox ran out approximately two years later......that's how I see this debacle ending

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fox is right, and if he had more input on the personnel decisions we would likely be above .500 right now.

ding.

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