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#31 Cat'sGrowl

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 12:11 PM

Fox has a right to be angry.
However, he is an NFL coach.
He shouldn't have to have players that fit his system to be successful.
He should be able to coach to fit his players.



With that said, I can definitely see where Fox is coming from and frankly, he can almost say whatever he wants about the organization's management at this point and I won't have a problem with it.
The Fat Cat hung this team out to dry from the get-go, plain and simple.

Let me add a balancing statement to that to though.

Ahem.
Mr. Fox.
Nobody cares if you don't think guys like Jimmy or Armanti fit your system-it's your job to coach them all the same. Oh, and by coach, I don't mean try to make them fit in your system-as I said before, it's your job to coach in a way that fits your players, not the other way around.

The square peg doesn't go in the circle hole.

#32 Silent Majority

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 12:23 PM

LOL. It's like some of you all don't even follow the team. You just talk out of your asses. Did you not know that Fox and Richardson have NOT been on speaking terms for the past couple years? Did you NOT see that Fox didn't come to the presser for both Clausen and Edwards? Any fan who knows just a sliver about Fox, could look@ the lack of depth on the O line and see this was NOT a Fox team. Evertytime a player didn't join you in the mutual fellating of Richardson, he was called all sorts of rediculous names. This is JR and his lap dog Hurney's doing. Getting mad @ a guy for wanting to make money, in the last year of his contract is just "butt-hurt" homerism. I have been a Fire Fox guy for a while... but this poo is NOT his fault.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 12:32 PM

I also think that most folks recognize that it isn't something we do all the time like some of the perennial bottom feeders. They know that once the CBA is signed, Richardson will open up the wallet.


No other team in the league has treated their players and coaches this way this year. It seems like every team tried to get better (okay maybe not the Bills) despite the CBA. So to me and I bet a lot of players see that JR is willing to sacrifice a year of a career for money. And what will happen the next time a disagreement between players and owners comes up? No, this is gonna haunt the Panthers for some time. IMHO

#34 GoApps70

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 12:33 PM

Never thought that we would see a time that between Fox and Steve Smith that some people would think that Fox was the more vocal and irrational off the hip guy right now.

#35 SOJA

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 12:40 PM

remember the ending to butch cassidy and the sundance kid:
now imagine: That Jake Delhomme and Fox are the Butch and the Sundance kid... Jake Delhomme ran out approximately around the time of the Arizona game and Fox ran out approximately two years later......that's how I see this debacle ending

#36 Jai.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 12:44 PM

fox is right, and if he had more input on the personnel decisions we would likely be above .500 right now.


ding.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 12:47 PM

No other team in the league has treated their players and coaches this way this year. It seems like every team tried to get better (okay maybe not the Bills) despite the CBA. So to me and I bet a lot of players see that JR is willing to sacrifice a year of a career for money. And what will happen the next time a disagreement between players and owners comes up? No, this is gonna haunt the Panthers for some time. IMHO


Except the Bills owner came out and said they're are rebuilding. Letting the fans know that it would take several years to build the team into a contender. While we sit here getting fed the "youth movement" crap while he raises ticket prices for a pitiful product on the field.

#38 rico6

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 01:13 PM

Looks like somebody shook the apple cart.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 01:18 PM

No other team in the league has treated their players and coaches this way this year. It seems like every team tried to get better (okay maybe not the Bills) despite the CBA. So to me and I bet a lot of players see that JR is willing to sacrifice a year of a career for money. And what will happen the next time a disagreement between players and owners comes up? No, this is gonna haunt the Panthers for some time. IMHO


This x10

A good majority of the board believes that as soon as the team starts winning again (albeit in a few years) that all the sins of Jerry, and this season will go away.

News to you guys, Jerry's already shown his true colors this season. Willing to cut a whole year of these players times, and practically forcing the PSL Owners to watch this crap product he calls an NFL team. Just to watch his own pockets.

It's sad.

#40 Cracka McNasty

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 01:31 PM

Go back to the post draft presser and tell me John Fox looked at all excited about the draft results, particularly Clausen and Edwards.


go back to any presser and tell me john fox has ever shown emotion...

#41 Tank

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 01:32 PM

He must have a guaranteed contract to risk losing $400K/game checks.

#42 Mattiekrome

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 01:32 PM

Wow, as much as I have wanted to see him gone, this makes me feel bad for the guy.

Would have been better if he had shat himself then rubbed feces all over the microphone

#43 TANTRIC-NINJA

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 02:18 PM

Fox is a free agent. How is a team ever going to justify to its fan base that they just hired the coach of a 1-15 team. Well when the presser comes out as the Panther front office tied his hands....he took this team to a super bowl... chews gum really hard...

He is going to have to throw someone under the bus when he is getting hired to a team saying sure you were 5-11 but Im awesome...I will coach you to around 8-8..and even if I had a pick of the pro-bowl rosters I still would never win my division and miss the playoff every other year...whats not to like I have the job right?

He has a good sound bite where he say I never finished worse than 7-9 and I will not do it this season...oops.

#44 Matt Foley

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 02:20 PM

Fox is trying to extricate himself from this excrement. Exclamation point.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 02:24 PM

I understand that the front office went cheap...but like someone said earlier the bucs did last year with a rookie coach and looked better than we have this year. You can also argue our defense is better than the bucs defense last year and our oline and running backs are better than the bucs were last year. So, I don't blame the front office competely. Brian Billick did say from a broadcast earlier this year that "you can win with a young qb, or at least be competitive. But it all starts with the coaching staff." implying that alot of blame falls on fox, his shitty offensive and qb coaches.


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