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Ask yourself if Liberals really wanted Bush to succeed?


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#25 Matt Foley

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:51 PM

Yes or no, do you think the rich should pay a higher percentage than the poor?

I don't think anyone would suggest the poor should pay a higher percentage. Conservatives think we should all pay the same percentage. It's called Fair Play. Liberals want Fair Share.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:57 PM

I think that he meant that all Dems want a larger more involved government.

The problem is, pubs are wanting the exact same thing.

Many of us, myself included, want smaller central government and more states rights. Our voice is trampled on by the shouts about stem cell research and abortion BS.

Many of the issues that we debate about and bitch over are not even the issues that many of us care the most about.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:57 PM

Yes the rich should pay a higher share than the poor. The government has agreed with this approach for over a century, and falls in with the economic idea that lower income people spend more on goods so their money is more needed to keep the retail economy going, while the rich tend to put more of their money into savings.

I am not in love with the idea, but it seems to make the most sense for people who are not selfish greedy bastards.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:58 PM

Yes or no, do you think the rich should pay a higher percentage than the poor?

I don't think anyone would suggest the poor should pay a higher percentage. Conservatives think we should all pay the same percentage. It's called Fair Play. Liberals want Fair Share.


Unfortunately, the rich have so many loopholes right now they pay less of a % than middle class/lower class does. If that was fixed, I'd like to see how it works. I think people SHOULD pay more depending on what they make, HOWEVER the tax system is flawed. I think it needs more brackets, it's stupid to go from 250,000+ then there is a big difference between 250k and 2 million. It needs fixed, the brackets need to be more gradual. Everyone just wants to point fingers instead of FIXING the issue. It's either destroy and recreate or keep it the way it is, not let's adjust or fix.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 02:05 PM

Yes the rich should pay a higher share than the poor. The government has agreed with this approach for over a century, and falls in with the economic idea that lower income people spend more on goods so their money is more needed to keep the retail economy going, while the rich tend to put more of their money into savings.

I am not in love with the idea, but it seems to make the most sense for people who are not selfish greedy bastards.


I am sorry, but I do not agree that anyone should pay a higher % than anyone else.

I am surrounded by people who pay very little, own no property, and use far more of the public goods than I do.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 02:16 PM

That's fine, like I said, I'm not in love with the idea. I can see why people are not keen on the concept. It really has nothing to do, however, with my basic outlook on human rights and stuff like that. Liberals are just as opposed to things like welfare fraud as anyone else.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 02:21 PM

Yes or no, do you think the rich should pay a higher percentage than the poor?

I don't think anyone would suggest the poor should pay a higher percentage. Conservatives think we should all pay the same percentage. It's called Fair Play. Liberals want Fair Share.


Where were you guys when the rich were paying 40% of their income during the Bush years while the middle class and poor paid much less? Are you saying we should all pay 40%? Then we could get healthcare for everyone...good idea. I like this Fair Play.

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 02:15 PM

Wanting Bush to fail was wanting the United States to fail and the same goes for Obama.


you are only 50% correct. bush stood for the founding principles of this country. so if bush failed, this country's ideals failed.

on the other hand, obama stands for socialism. if obama fails, socialism in this country fails, and logically...that is a positive.