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Hurney and mortgaging the future...

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Here it is: http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2010/04/reviewing-a-huge-draft-day-for-panthers-the-clausen-chase-the-armanti-factor.html

"He called the St. Louis Rams, who had the first pick in Round 2, 33rd overall. But the Rams wouldn't make a deal, apparently because Hurney was not willing to surrender a future first-round pick for the third consecutive year.

Hurney tried to trade all through Round 2, but kept running into the same problem.

Alas, he sat there at 48 and got Clausen anyway, prompting him to say "Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make."

"Though he wouldn't deal his 2011 No. 1, he was ready and willing to swap his second-rounder next year and found a willing partner in New England. The Patriots love to collect future second rounders and, in exchange, gave Carolina their pick at No. 89, the 25th selection in the third round."

Check the facts next time.

meh...i was waiting for you to check them. want a cookie?

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edit: ahh I see you didn't see it, nevermind!

why do you think Hurney was the sole reason for those picks? Don't you think a "Win-Now" mentality could have dominated them? It's very possible that we'll see a bit of a different strategy in the next draft or so.

too bad we already lost our 2nd rounder.

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It definitely will hurt come April and we don't have the #33 overall pick.

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meh...i was waiting for you to check them. want a cookie?

No. But I will settle for some pie. :D

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pie and rep. that's as good as you're gonna get. satisfaction for proving me wrong about something would matter if that hadn't been done so many times....or if it bothered me.

anyway...you have to admit that he is prone to some very questionable gambles that the main benefactors are teams that i despise but keep on putting together incredible teams like the pats.

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anyway...you have to admit that he is prone to some very questionable gambles that the main benefactors are teams that i despise but keep on putting together incredible teams like the pats.

true 'nuff. I think a lot of that is the urge to win now, so hopefully they can turn to building for the future now.

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I like an SEC tested Ryan Mallett. That may be just me though.

It may indeed :sosp:

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is this where someone says any SEC team could take the Panthers?

but seriously. I don't want Mallett, I just don't like what I've seen from him.

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Cliff Notes: You put a good product on the field first, then you add some youth and ask them to cut their teeth. You don't throw kids out there and hope it all pans out.

The problem with building for the future is that if it doesn't work out, you could be screwed. Look at the history of the Panthers since Fox got here. We've really not been that good. In fact, this team has never been that great since the very start. The team we had last year? Simply average. But they decided to bring in rookies and pair them with that squad (actually less than the 09 squad). You should only "go young" when you can cover for a rookie's mistakes. We can't this year.

Just look at the Colts, Pats, and Steelers. They had a solid team...and brought up youngsters at the same time. When Bettis was the main guy in Pittsburgh, they groomed Willie Parker (busted). When Parker was the guy for a quick minute, Mendenhall was groomed. Hines Ward was the main man at WR, and they brought in Holmes (traded). Now Wallace is the star and Sanders is being groomed. In Indy, Harrison was the man as they groomed Wayne. Now Wayne is the man while Garcon and Collie get their reps. And the Pats always have a mix of young and old.

The key, though, is the QB for those three. If everyone here is confidant Clausen is top tier, more power to you, you're braver than I. I just have a problem with the risk our FO took. Instead of the above way of getting things done, they flatly admitted they were going young, not grooming young. I sure hope it works out. Because if we fall flat with nothing to back up the youth with, nothing will ever change here.

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anyway...you have to admit that he is prone to some very questionable gambles that the main benefactors are teams that i despise but keep on putting together incredible teams like the pats.

Of course he is. I've yet to see the benefits of trading away the #33 pick for Armanti Edwards. He may be good in 3 years, but he's not worth the #33 overall.

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But hasn't the team essentially conceded a bad move when they draft a WR in LaFell and the very next pick is Edwards (who was drafted as a WR, not a QB) and then you draft yet another WR further down the road. Just how many WRs did the Panthers need to replace? Drafting three in hopes of getting one good one to replace Moose/Jarrett?

I believe that's called drafting the best player avaialable. We kept them all without releasing anything of quality. You seem to be willing to reach in the draft to fill positions.

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I believe that's called drafting the best player avaialable. We kept them all without releasing anything of quality. You seem to be willing to reach in the draft to fill positions.

You're saying that Armanti "I can't catch a punt" Edwards was the best player available?

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