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Do you think we will see a diffrent concept on D this season.

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Like, Chris Canty? He will probably leave Dallas this offseason and would probably fit nicely in Fox's "oversized defensive linemen" set. He's 300+, and while he doesn't have a whole lot of stats, it's usually because 3-4 down linemen never usually do.

Other teams will look to just plug him in to fill space in their 3-4s just like we did with Kemo in our system. Plus the market isn't exactly a pricey one for these type players. We can give him the conversion in a new system and also not have to pay that much, plus he gives us a nice inexpensive alternative.

I dont really know much about the guy but can he pass rush? We are in dire of one. I would be nice to have a wall in the middle also.

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This is not about the 3-4 or the 4-3 its about how our New DC will approach the game and how he will use his personnel. Like if we will see more man to man, bump and run, some coverages to cover the lack of talent we might have with our DEs this season, and so on. Or will we still go with the bend but dont break and rush 4 to get pressure like we have done for 7 years.

It's all academic until we get the defensive line sorted out.

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It's my understanding from what I have read that Fox was in control of defensive team meetings and strategies while Trgovac (T) although the DC was simply responsible for implementing Fox’s strategies. Until the team can sort out who might be the defensive starters next season, then strategies will be put on hold. Fox will have a big say in defensive strategies as that is his specialty and apparently devotes most of his attention to defense during practice sessions, unless he is willing to relinquish some control and hire someone who he thinks is as good as or better than himself in designing strategies. My guess is there won't be much change in defensive strategies next season. Fox will use what he is familiar with based on the personnel available and the matchups for each game.

I wish they would use more man-to-man coverage as they seem to get eaten alive at times in zone coverage when defensive backs and linebackers switch coverage in the middle of a play when receivers are moving in and out of a defensive player’s zone, and seem slow to pick up receiver coverage responsibility at times.

The defensive coaching staff's lack of adaptability in the first half against the Cardinals was appalling. Waiting until half time to make changes was "a day late and a dollar short" (giving up 27 pts in the 1st half and 6 pts in the 2nd half). I just wonder if Fox forced T to wait until half time to make major adjustments on defense, or if T had much latitude at all in the design and application of first half strategies.

In other words, it appears it was Fox who was in control of the defensive strategy and would not change his strategy until half time. Adaptability is a major key to survival. Banging one’s head against the wall doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is not a solution. Some people have deemed that type of behavior as part of the definition of insanity.

Let’s hope we see some better strategies and implementations next year.

And Peppers is looking for a geographical and defensive system change-fix outside of himself. If he can’t get away from his blocker(s) here, how can he expect to do it in another system? He is not that motivated. Putting out 110% on every play has not been something he has been capable of doing. I suppose he mentally visualizes himself being more motivated in another system with different teammates, coaches and defensive roles. He needs to find a solution within rather than outside himself.

So, that’s my arm chair suggestive rant, as if it’s going to make any difference what we say.

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I dont really know much about the guy but can he pass rush? We are in dire of one. I would be nice to have a wall in the middle also.

Dallas runs a 3-4 so he's usually teaming up with Marcus Spears and Jay Ratliff to take on 5 olinemen. So we know he's had experience against double teams, and he has been able to sack a QB a few times, but his stats are deflated anyway, because of the person that lines up behind or to his right (DeMarcus Ware)

I know he's solid against the run tho.

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Dallas runs a 3-4 so he's usually teaming up with Marcus Spears and Jay Ratliff to take on 5 olinemen. So we know he's had experience against double teams, and he has been able to sack a QB a few times, but his stats are deflated anyway, because of the person that lines up behind or to his right (DeMarcus Ware)

I know he's solid against the run tho.

Really run is not our problem the problem is we need a good push up the middle. I could not count the times I saw last year the QB step us and avoid the rush because of poor inside push.

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There will be no change in philosophy as long as Fox is here. His undermining of Turgovac is why he left to begin with for a lesser position to another team proves that this is a one man show which has been obvious to me to begin with, which is why I never banged on Turgo anyway. To all you talking your ignorant poo about Turgo will find out it was not him to begin with. Maybe what is happening is a good thing and I hope the FO has a long talk with Fox to let him know to let the people do their jobs. Then, MAYBE a philosophy change will be made, if not, a head coaching job needs to be made. Mike Tomlin at Pittsburgh didnt put his nose in their defense, he is a 4-3 guy and look how successful their team is. It's time the FO steps up and let Fox know he is not untouchable, their are two very highly regarded FA head coaches here in NC with Schott and Cowher that are waiting on this job to open up.

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Now that Meeks is our DC what do yall think. Some more weak ass soft zones? I dont know much about the guy but he did give Indy a ok D for a while.

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something tells me new face, same place (on the defensive rankings that is)

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