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#31 venom

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 03:27 AM

I think Venom might be suggesting that Obama's term will come to a violent end. Someone should contact the secret service.


how typical. attempt at humor from a liberal in poor taste.

#32 venom

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 03:29 AM

bump because i want to know why sigmund thinks baghdad wasn't ethnically cleansed and why venom thinks socialist european countries aren't socialist, or why china is communist.


like i said...you have no idea what youre talking about, and it is quite evident.

#33 HoFBound90

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 07:04 AM

Venom your doing all this arguing, but are not backing anything up outside of some lame untrue wikipedia type bs you just copied. You remind me of Red from that 70s show, except unfunny. Are you truly that thick headed? Go do some reading off of something that wasn't made during WWII, where the red scare is taking over the world or something besides a biased pos evidence thats being used on Stormfront to justify their beliefs. Its all just a bunch of garbage. Get a f'n clue. You have lost this thread.

And no I am not a liberal.

#34 Matt Foley

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 07:46 AM

bump because i want to know why sigmund thinks baghdad wasn't ethnically cleansed and why venom thinks socialist european countries aren't socialist, or why china is communist.


I have no idea if they were or weren't. So one Muslim faction has conquered another....this is ethnic cleansing to you?

#35 Fiz

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 08:17 AM

I have no idea if they were or weren't. So one Muslim faction has conquered another....this is ethnic cleansing to you?


well they wiped them out/drove them from a region that's pretty much textbook ethnic cleansing yes.

Edited by Fiz, 25 January 2009 - 08:27 AM.


#36 Zod

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 09:29 AM

I have no idea if they were or weren't. So one Muslim faction has conquered another....this is ethnic cleansing to you?


uh



yes?

#37 natty

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 10:55 AM

Muslims don't count, they aren't real people apparently.

#38 Matt Foley

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 10:57 AM

uh



yes?


Aren't they both of the same ethnicity? I don't know. I'm asking.

#39 Fiz

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 11:26 AM

the schism between shia and sunni originally formed due to political reasons. there are some differences in the actual faith itself, but I would say the differences between evangelicals and catholics in this country is a good example. The basic idea is the same and would appear very similar to an outside observer, but to those practicing the faith, those differences (mary, saints, etc) make all the difference in the world.

the schism led to sort of a geographic balkanization. over the centuries, culture, language, religious belief, genetic makeup (due to different migrations etc) made for great difference between the arab shia and sunni groups, and they were basically forced to live together after the british mandate after ww1.

now, in their ethnicity isn't as different as say germans v jews, bosnians v kosovars, or shia v kurds (also any kurds that had remained in the south were forced to migrate north), so in that sense i guess you could argue that it's not ethnic cleansing. However, the sunnis were wiped out in baghdad. call it whatever you want, that's undeniable, as is that it was probably desired by the us government, and almost certainly had more to do with the decline in violence than did the surge.

#40 Delhommey

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 11:28 AM

It is most easily compared to The Troubles.


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