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#76 Kral

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:34 PM

Holidays in America have very little to do with religion and everything to do with market forces. Thus in America anyone can celebrate the holiday with no qualms as it is just a ploy to get more of your money circulating before the end of the fiscal period.

#77 googoodan

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:04 PM

no, theres a lot more than a date

http://answers.yahoo...30094228AADwxZH


Yes, other people also saw Religulous. Got anything new?

#78 Zaximus

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:17 PM

I don't mind if they celebrate it, because it can still be a about friends and family and good times.

However, I sure don't see all these people who bash Christianity asking their bosses if they can work on these days because they don't believe in it.

#79 cookinwithgas

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 09:30 PM

Yes, other people also saw Religulous. Got anything new?


Every single thing I have is based on research that can be thousands of years newer than what you can present. Go hump a dog.

#80 cookinwithgas

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 09:31 PM

Speaking of shock how that whole OMG we found Noahs Ark! Ing this past summer work out?

#81 scpanther22

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:27 PM

Every single thing I have is based on research that can be thousands of years newer than what you can present. Go hump a dog.


Not really..if you read the mythology...I think you would see what you posted is nothing new and not true...

Edited by scpanther22, 30 November 2010 - 10:38 PM.


#82 pstall

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:38 PM



#83 googoodan

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:49 PM

Every single thing I have is based on research that can be thousands of years newer than what you can present. Go hump a dog.


I take it your answer is no.
Lick up the mess after I hump a dog.

#84 beach

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:17 PM

Jesus was essentially a dude telling people to reflect and understand oneness and selflessness. He was pretty much a chill guy that liked telling stories, then taken very out of context then written about by thousands of others.

Whatever, let's relax and celebrate his birthday...IF IT REALLY IS HIS BIRTHDAY!!! or if he is even real!! omg!!

puff, puff, pass, merry christmas

#85 JakeFlake

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 01:02 PM

Atheists Can Celebrate Christmas Too!

http://thesouthernat...istmas-too.html

#86 ChucktownK

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 02:44 PM

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#87 cookinwithgas

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 03:12 PM

Well he is a red sox fan.....

#88 tattoorhino

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 03:20 PM

This kind of statement is quite common in atheist circles. It is inflammatory, illogical, and paranoid. Many atheists I've spoken to tell me that I cannot think logically, that I am deluded, and that I believe in myths. They tell me that I am bound by foolish antiquated beliefs, and that I need to abandon my religious bigotry and become a 'free thinker' like them. In other words, they don't want me to think the way I do.

Additionally, after reading much atheist material and debating with them over the internet, I've discovered they often use mockery of God, religious leaders, and the Bible, as weapons to further their agenda. This isn't the case with all atheists, as I have had very good conversations with some of them, but ridiculing attitudes are surprisingly prevalent and strong. Character assassination, half-truths, and out-of-context Bible quotes are typical tools used by many of them in attempts to make Christianity look bad.

Now, I am not trying to dismantle the atheist position with a generic character attack aimed at them. I am only making an observation. In the majority of my dealings with atheists, I have encountered great arrogance, rudeness, and condescension. Atheists have told me that religion is only a giant con-game designed to get peoples' money, that clergymen are in business for themselves, and that I was mentally ill for believing in God. Following are some of their comments:

* "I do not want to be bound to archaic mythologies. This is the 20th century."
* "Christianity is an oppressive system used to control and manipulate people."
* "Logic demands that religion be proven wrong."
* "Christians should all be in mental wards."
* "We are free thinkers and not bound by outdated and oppressive myths."
* "Christians are sycophantic sheep."

Atheists often imply that reason is best used by them and not by Christians who, as many say, need psychological help for believing in God. This condescending attitude is a fountain for derogatory comments. I have been called stupid, absurd, illogical, and a slave to my religion. I get the impression from atheists that they are so convinced they have the truth that no other options are available to them, and that if you don't agree with them, you're not smart. Of course, they will deny this and say I am being ridiculous, but this is what I have observed -- right or wrong.

Consider some of the terms atheists use to describe themselves: "Free thinkers," "Free from religion," "Rational," etc. They use these self-descriptive terms in juxtaposition to statements of Christians as religious bigots, losers, and brainwashers. On the atheist.org website I read,

"Critical thinking, objectivity, scientific methodology, and peer review are all hallmarks of Atheism. Submission, fear, credulity, and insupportable claims are the hallmarks of religious belief."

When I read statements like this, I can't help but wonder which religion they are referring to. It can't be Christianity, because the Bible teaches us to love God and love our fellow man. It teaches that the fear of the Lord is wisdom, that truthfulness is a way of life, and that eyewitness accounts of the miraculous is one of the evidences for its validity. Of course, the atheist would argue with all of this because he must, in spite of the facts. But still, if an atheist wants to attack religion in general and Christianity specifically, he should, at least, do so objectively. But this doesn't seem to be the hallmark of the atheistic movement; at least not from what I've seen so far.

Consider the following statements from Atheists:

* "Godism is consistent with crime, cruelty, envy, hatred, malice, and uncharitableness."
* "As long as religious purposes are served, ethics, inquiry and reason are abandoned."

Are these the statements of tolerance, impartiality, truth, and sound judgment? Not at all. It seems to me that if the atheists who authored the above quotes were in power with their views of religion being cruel, evil, and unreasonable, would they then either imprison the 'offenders' or legislate complete and total annihilation of all things religious? Who would then be full of hatred, malice, and bigotry? It is something to ponder. Does atheism really teach freedom? No. It teaches bondage for its adherents and for those who disagree with it.

#89 tattoorhino

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 03:20 PM

Merry Christmas!

#90 mmmbeans

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 03:21 PM

wow, a tattoo sighting in teh tenderbox.


merry christmas tattoo.



happy holidays jangler.


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