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#21 panthers1789

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:31 PM

It's probably all wrong. I just checked Roethlisberger's stats for this year and his number for him was way off.


Big Ben had 17 TDs and 15 INTs in 469 attempts and he had 14 fumbles.

Jake Delhomme had 15 TDs and 12 INTs in 414 attempts and Jake only had 5 fumbles.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:33 PM

Exactly.

Looking further into the stats, you can show just how useless they really are -

Jake threw 1 INT out of every 34 passes, and Romo threw them 1/32.

But take this stat into account too: Delhomme also only threw 1 touchdown in every 27 attempts. Romo? 1 in every 17.


Our running backs scored 30 TDs in the regular season. Jake didn't have to or need to throw in the red zone, because of the offensive philosophy of the team. So the TD pass stat in this instance is fairly irrelevant.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:33 PM

It's probably all wrong. I just checked Roethlisberger's stats for this year and his number for him was way off.


Rothlisberger had 469 attempts and 15 ints 469 divided by 15 equals 31. Checks out for me unless nfl.com stats are wrong.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:34 PM

Exactly.

Looking further into the stats, you can show just how useless they really are -

Jake threw 1 INT out of every 34 passes, and Romo threw them 1/32.

But take this stat into account too: Delhomme also only threw 1 touchdown in every 27 attempts. Romo? 1 in every 17.


Because the Cowboys didn't have as good of a run game as us.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:40 PM

Jake isn't bad bud he is not go he is one of those few mediocre Quarterbacks in the NFL that get to start. I would put him in a category with these quarterbacks

Jake Delhomme (Panthers)
Jason Campbell (Redskins)
Trent Edwards (Bills)
Marc Bulger (Rams)
JaMarcus Russell (Raiders)
Kyle Orton (Bears)
David Garrard (Jaguars)
Shuan Hill (Started the most games for the 49ers this year)
Senaca Wallace (Started the most games for the Seahawks this year)
Tyler Thigpen (Started the most games for the Chiefs this year)
Dan Orlovsky (Started the most games for the Lions this year)
Gus Frerotte (Started the most games for the Vikings this year)
Ryan Fitzpatrick (Started the most games for the Bengals this year)
Derek Anderson (Started the most games for the Browns this year)

Know out of those 14 Quarterbacks only two of their respective teams made it to the playoffs. They were the Panthers, and the Vikings. These two teams have one great think in common. OUR RUNNING BACKS. Know I am not saying that the reason the Vikings made it to the playoffs was all because of Adrian Peterson and Chester Tayler, and I am not saying that the Panthers made it to the playoffs only because of Jonathan Stewart and Deangelo Williams. But I am saying if these two teams had better quarterbacks, then who knows maybe the Vikings or the Panthers would have been representing the NFC in the Super Bowl this year.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:41 PM

Because the Cowboys didn't have as good of a run game as us.


That excuses Jake from barely throwing more touchdowns than interceptions.. ?? Or MORE interceptions, if you count the post-season.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:42 PM

I'm going to post the number of TDs and picks each starting QB threw this season:

Delhomme: 16 TDs, 17 picks
Matt Ryan: 18 TDs, 13 picks
Brees: 34 TDs, 17 picks
Jeff Garcia: 12 TDs, 6 picks

Romo: 26 TDs, 14 picks
McNabb: 28 TDs, 15 picks
Campbell: 13 TDs, 6 picks
Eli Manning: 21 TDs, 12 picks

Warner: 38 TDs, 16 picks
Shaun Hill: 13 TDs, 8 picks
Seneca Wallace: 11 TDs, 3 picks
Bulger: 11 TDs, 13 picks

Orton: 18 TDs, 12 picks
Orlovsky: 8 TDs, 8 picks
T Jackson: 9 TDs, 3 picks
Rodgers: 28 TDs, 13 picks

Cassel: 21 TDs, 11 picks
Favre: 22 TDs, 22 picks
Trent Edwards: 11 TDs, 10 picks
Pennington: 20 TDs, 11 picks

Peyton Manning: 28 TDs, 12 picks
Schaub: 15 TDs, 10 picks
Garrard: 15 TDs, 13 picks
Collins: 12 TDs, 8 picks

Rivers: 37 TDs, 13 picks
Cutler: 25 TDs, 18 picks
Russell: 13 TDs, 8 picks
Thigpen: 18 TDs, 12 picks

Roethlisberger: 19 TDs, 15 picks
Flacco: 15 TDs, 15 picks
Fitzpatrick: 8 TDs, 9 picks
Anderson: 9 TDs, 8 picks

Congratulations Jake Delhomme! You joined Ryan Fitzpatrick and Marc Bulger as the only regular starting quarterbacks this season that threw more picks than touchdowns! Yet you still have people trying to use stats to show how accurate a passer you are! :D

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:44 PM

jake isn't bad but he is not good either. He is one of those few mediocre quarterbacks in the nfl that get to start. I would put him in a category with these quarterbacks.

Jake delhomme (panthers)
jason campbell (redskins)
trent edwards (bills)
marc bulger (rams)
jamarcus russell (raiders)
kyle orton (bears)
david garrard (jaguars)
shuan hill (started the most games for the 49ers this year)
senaca wallace (started the most games for the seahawks this year)
tyler thigpen (started the most games for the chiefs this year)
dan orlovsky (started the most games for the lions this year)
gus frerotte (started the most games for the vikings this year)
ryan fitzpatrick (started the most games for the bengals this year)
derek anderson (started the most games for the browns this year)

now out of those 14 quarterbacks only two of their respective teams made it to the playoffs. They were the panthers, and the vikings. These two teams have one great thing in common. Our running backs. Now i am not saying that the reason the vikings made it to the playoffs was all because of adrian peterson and chester tayler, and i am not saying that the panthers made it to the playoffs only because of jonathan stewart and deangelo williams. But i am saying if these two teams had better quarterbacks, then who knows maybe the vikings or the panthers would have been representing the nfc in the super bowl this year.


all i got to say!

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:46 PM

I'm going to post the number of TDs and picks each starting QB threw this season:

Delhomme: 16 TDs, 17 picks
Matt Ryan: 18 TDs, 13 picks
Brees: 34 TDs, 17 picks
Jeff Garcia: 12 TDs, 6 picks

Romo: 26 TDs, 14 picks
McNabb: 28 TDs, 15 picks
Campbell: 13 TDs, 6 picks
Eli Manning: 21 TDs, 12 picks

Warner: 38 TDs, 16 picks
Shaun Hill: 13 TDs, 8 picks
Seneca Wallace: 11 TDs, 3 picks
Bulger: 11 TDs, 13 picks

Orton: 18 TDs, 12 picks
Orlovsky: 8 TDs, 8 picks
T Jackson: 9 TDs, 3 picks
Rodgers: 28 TDs, 13 picks

Cassel: 21 TDs, 11 picks
Favre: 22 TDs, 22 picks
Trent Edwards: 11 TDs, 10 picks
Pennington: 20 TDs, 11 picks

Peyton Manning: 28 TDs, 12 picks
Schaub: 15 TDs, 10 picks
Garrard: 15 TDs, 13 picks
Collins: 12 TDs, 8 picks

Rivers: 37 TDs, 13 picks
Cutler: 25 TDs, 18 picks
Russell: 13 TDs, 8 picks
Thigpen: 18 TDs, 12 picks

Roethlisberger: 19 TDs, 15 picks
Flacco: 15 TDs, 15 picks
Fitzpatrick: 8 TDs, 9 picks
Anderson: 9 TDs, 8 picks

Congratulations Jake Delhomme! You joined Ryan Fitzpatrick and Marc Bulger as the only regular starting quarterbacks this season that threw more picks than touchdowns! Yet you still have people trying to use stats to show how accurate a passer you are! :D



Our running backs scored 30 TDs in the regular season. Jake didn't have to or need to throw in the red zone, because of the offensive philosophy of the team. So the TD pass stat in this instance is fairly irrelevant.


Of course by your "logic" Travaris Jackson is a really accurate quarterback because he threw 9 TDs with only 3 Ints. I suppose that during the Colts' Super Bowl run in 2006 that since Peyton Manning threw something like 3 TDs versus 8 INTs, that he is "inaccurate".

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:47 PM

Big Ben had 17 TDs and 15 INTs in 469 attempts and he had 14 fumbles.

Jake Delhomme had 15 TDs and 12 INTs in 414 attempts and Jake only had 5 fumbles.


But every time Big Ben threw an interception. The Steelers defense wouldn't let the opposing team capitalize on Ben's mistakes, but every time Jake threw an interception our defense let them walk right down the field and put points on the board. EXAMPLE: CARDINALS GAME