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#31 jtm

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:05 AM

All I am saying is it is crazy to get rid of either. Stewart is under contract until 2013, and DWill has earned and is worth $6 million a year.

Not trying to get side tracked, but their are "other" players that are far worse team members and are older than DWill that should go before him.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:08 AM

Do people on this site realize that Stewart is making MORE than Williams at this point under a rookie contract? Stewart has a 5 year 14 million dollar contract that runs through 2013. Williams is due to get $2.1 this year up from less than a million last year.

He has been underpaid for years and hasn't complained about it. Now it is his turn to get paid and people are ready to cast him out. He deserves every penny of $6 million a year. Not only is he worth this on the open market, but you can also look at it as repayment for the years he was making less than a million as a pro bowl back.


people aren't rewarded new contracts for what they've done in the past. it's for what they're expected to do in the future.

and williams has only had 2 seasons that would be considered pro bowl production.

a new contract with $30-35 million guaranteed money? (5 years)

not gonna happen.

#33 kdrh5

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:21 AM

Running backs are hard to find now? LOL people are making stuff up to justify overpaying a disposable, easily replaceable position all in the name of emotion

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:30 AM

Do people on this site realize that Stewart is making MORE than Williams at this point under a rookie contract? Stewart has a 5 year 14 million dollar contract that runs through 2013. Williams is due to get $2.1 this year up from less than a million last year.


that's usually what happens when one person is drafted higher than the other.

He has been underpaid for years and hasn't complained about it.


why is it that no one seems to remember carolina trying to extend williams just after the 2008 season? both parties agreed to leave his contract alone...that sounds like a polite way of saying they didn't see eye to eye.

that might be why he isn't complaining.

Edited by number28, 30 November 2010 - 11:35 AM.


#35 jasonluckydog

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:32 AM

Tyrell Sutton will be the 2011 league MVPj

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:34 AM

I hope he doesn't read this forum. Many here are ready to replace him with a guy that had 2 good and 1 decent game that all ended in loses. Amazing....Don't get me wrong, I am happy Goodson is playing well. Did any of you actually watch those games? For 2 of those 3 games the O-line actually opened up holes for him and Stewart to run through. DWill was getting yards earlier in the year out of absolutely nothing. Almost all his gains were cutbacks. For those of you that don't know what a cutback is, it is basically an "oh crap" the middle is clogged so I have to turn on the jets and go outside. Not an easy way to make a living. JStewart found this out the hard way when he got the start and then blamed the OLine.

People here were ready to burn down B of A stadium for all of the free agents we let go this year. Now the best one on our team and one of the best in the NFL is up and you want to let him go because he is 27 for a guy that played good for 2 games and an injury prone power runner?

Were any of you fans back in the Biakabutuka days? He was the second coming of christ to Charlotte and it didn't work out well. I hope Goodson and Stewart work out, but you don't start trading proven elite running backs for rookies.

Williams patiently waited his turn to start in Carolina when he probably deserved to start earlier. The Panthers rewarded him by drafting Stewart in the first round and pretty much slapping DWill in the face. Does DWill pitch a fit or ask to be traded? No, he shows up for work and takes it a step farther by embracing Stewart. Can you name me another running back duo that gets along as well as these two? DWill could have made this miserable for Carolina and Stewart (remember Peppers). Now it is time for him to get paid after everything he has done for us and the consensus here is to trade him for a guy that has 3 decent games. Simply Amazing!!!! Alright, I am off my soap box now...


Yeah, you're letting emotions get in the way of business. Um, no one is trying to let go of williams in favor of rookies since none of our backs are rookies to begin with LOL. And the team didnt let go of free agents, there were no free agents because of the cba, remember? They cut old veterans who were overpaid. Despite these obvious false statements people still agree with this post which isn't surprising

#37 mav1234

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:44 AM

Goodson and Stew aren't rookies, but the last paragraph rings true for me. This guy is a great player and a great teammate, and unless he is asking for something insane, I say you sign him. Give him a bit of ground if you need to, he means that much to the team in the locker room.

If we don't need 4 good backs, let's trade Sutton. Can you really tell me you'd rather have Stew, Goodson, and Sutton, than Stew, Goodson, and DWill? I know the price tags are different but let's assume for a moment here we aren't going to be in a salary crunch next year.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:52 AM

cool! lets resign D Foster v2.0

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:52 AM

people aren't rewarded new contracts for what they've done in the past. .


Delhomme

The businessman in me sees Goodson/Stewart as the tandem for next year.

The fan in me really wants D-Will to get resigned for all reasons jtm as already explained

#40 mav1234

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:54 AM

Foster never went over 1000 yards rushing in a season, had as many fumbles lost IN ONE SEASON as Dwill has had in HIS CAREER, scored nearly a third of the touchdowns... all while being on the team for longer and starting in front of DWill for a couple of those seasons.

how exactly is DWill Foster2.0? couple bad injuries that came later in his time here? meh. far far more valuable to us than Foster was.

#41 nosuchthingasapanther

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:55 AM

Delhomme


salary cap move.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:00 PM

Foster never went over 1000 yards rushing in a season, had as many fumbles lost IN ONE SEASON as Dwill has had in HIS CAREER, scored nearly a third of the touchdowns... all while being on the team for longer and starting in front of DWill for a couple of those seasons.

how exactly is DWill Foster2.0? couple bad injuries that came later in his time here? meh. far far more valuable to us than Foster was.


Do you know how good Foster was going to be before he got injured?

Meh. It's a bit of an extreme example.

Anyways...people who are fighting for DWill have the same mentality that plagues this organization.

Be loyal to a team not a player. Those NE Patriots fans must hate all the stars they have let go over the years.

#43 mav1234

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:02 PM

Do you know how good Foster was going to be before he got injured?

Meh. It's a bit of an extreme example.

Anyways...people who are fighting for DWill have the same mentality that plagues this organization.

Be loyal to a team not a player. Those NE Patriots fans must hate all the stars they have let go over the years.


The Patriots also re-sign people they think are key to their success. They release people that ask for too much money. If Dwill is reasonable there is no real reason not to bring him back... but again, it all depends on how much he is asking for.

#44 jtm

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:04 PM

Yeah, you're letting emotions get in the way of business. Um, no one is trying to let go of williams in favor of rookies since none of our backs are rookies to begin with LOL. And the team didnt let go of free agents, there were no free agents because of the cba, remember? They cut old veterans who were overpaid. Despite these obvious false statements people still agree with this post which isn't surprising


I know they are not rookies. You know what I was talking about. Goodson is an unproven young player...is that better? I wasn't putting Goodson and Stewart in the same category. They are under rookie contracts.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:06 PM

Do you know how good Foster was going to be before he got injured?

Meh. It's a bit of an extreme example.

Anyways...people who are fighting for DWill have the same mentality that plagues this organization.

Be loyal to a team not a player. Those NE Patriots fans must hate all the stars they have let go over the years.


We are not the Patriots. Belichick is a master at recognizing talent and getting the most bang for his buck. Trying to follow in their foot steps will be a big mistake.

Granted, if Williams asks for $10 mil a year, there is no way we should pay that. Having said that, if he asks for the going rate which is around $6 million a year, we should pay it.

I find if funny that people say that contracts are for what you can do for a team in the future. 99% of the people on this site were so furious at Peppers for leaving because they felt Pep betrayed the Panthers. If you don't take care of players then you get a rep like the Jets with Thomas Jones and Vikings. The way Jones was treated was the main reason Revis held out. What goes around comes around.

Edited by jtm, 30 November 2010 - 12:10 PM.



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