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#1 panther4life

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:05 PM

Bradford and Clausen have played and started against the same opponent 1 time. Tampa
Heres there stats against Tampa..who beat us both
--------CMP ATTYDS-CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
Bradford 13 26 126 50.0__ _4.85 19 2 __0 __1.0 89.6
Clausen 16 29 191 55.2 __6.59 34 __0 __0 _2.0 75.5

After the next 3 weeks we'll have played against 5 common opponents.(Tampa, N.O,ATL,Seattle,Arizona)

Mccoy and Clausens stats against the Saints
---------CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
Colt Mcc. 9 __16 74 __56.3 _4.63 18 _0 _0 __1.0 _68.2
Clausen 11 __21 146 52.4 __6.95 55 _1 __0 _3.0 _90.6

Since we have Seattle coming up this week I figured I go ahead and post Bradfords stats against them and after the game I'll fill in Clausens stats.
Keep in mind the seattle game was Bradfords 2nd best game of the year
--------CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
Bradford 23 41 289 _56.1 _7.05 49 __2 __1 __4.0 84.3


Food for thought until the Seahawks game. Should be interesting to revisit after the game on sunday

*stats arent lining up right, wont post the way i inteded it to

Edited by panther4life, 02 December 2010 - 02:50 PM.
Had to do some crazy editing to have stats in place


#2 Snake

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:08 PM

I dont think its really fair to compare Bradford to Clausen because everyone knew coming into the draft Bradford was better.

Still Im not happy with Clausens play.

#3 Stroupe-a-loop

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:11 PM

I dont think its really fair to compare Bradford to Clausen because everyone knew coming into the draft Bradford was better.

Still Im not happy with Clausens play.


Agreed. Bradford was supposed to be a franchise guy. If Clausen was playing at that level, he would have been far and away the best pick of the draft.

#4 blackcat

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:12 PM

Interesting stats considering how our o line has performed as well as the fact we have 2 rookies at wr. Can't wait to see how Sunday turns out.

#5 Proudiddy

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:25 PM

It doesn't really matter what the stats say. And I don't see how these Clausen stats are possible, considering he entered the Browns game with a 48% completion percentage if I'm not mistaken. But, assuming these are authentic, it still doesn't matter...

Bradford and McCoy are getting their teams to win with less talent around them (Smitty, Stewart, Goodson, and Gettis has proven to be a viable option at this point). Something just isn't right about Jimmy, and the stat's don't show that he can't put a team on his back and win like Bradford and McCoy.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:27 PM

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:28 PM

Bradford and Clausen have played and started against the same opponent 1 time. Tampa
Heres there stats against Tampa..who beat us both
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
Bradford 13 26 126 50.0 4.85 19 2 0 1.0 89.6
Clausen 16 29 191 55.2 6.59 34 0 0 2.0 75.5

After the next 3 weeks we'll have played against 5 common opponents.(Tampa, N.O,ATL,Seattle,Arizona)

Mccoy and Clausens stats against the Saints
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
Colt Mccoy 9 16 74 56.3 4.63 18 0 0 1.0 68.2
Clausen 11 21 146 52.4 6.95 55 1 0 3.0 90.6
Clausen 8 18 47 44.4 2.8 18 0 1 2.0 28.5
And the Brown's won going away while we lost 34-3. They ran for 138 yards as well.
Since we have Seattle coming up this week I figured I go ahead and post Bradfords stats against them and after the game I'll fill in Clausens stats.
Keep in mind the seattle game was Bradfords 2nd best game of the year
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
Bradford 23 41 289 56.1 7.05 49 2 1 4.0 84.3
Clausen....??

Food for thought until the Seahawks game. Should be interesting to revisit after the game on sunday

*stats arent lining up right, wont post the way i inteded it to


To be fair to McCoy, lets not forget the second game Clausen played against New Orleans after Moore got hurt until Clausen got benched in favor of Pike.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:34 PM

I think that it also bears mentioning that Sam Bradford is having one of the greatest rookie seasons for a quarterback ever.

#9 Fox007

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:36 PM

Bradford has/had the NFL record for most yards/TD's by a rookie QB through his first 11 starts. Surpassing Peyton Manning.

Bout all i need to know.

#10 Jpjr

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:41 PM

If Kasey had hit that field goal last week all of the "on the fencers" re: Clausen would have been singing his praises.

Bradford and McCoys teams are winning. That's the difference. I don't mind blaming Clausen alone for the Panthers losing since that's the standard in the NFL. Completely ignorant, but the standard nonetheless.

#11 ElkinPanthersFan

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:44 PM

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About all i need to know.. I'm a fan of neither.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:45 PM

Bradford has/had the NFL record for most yards/TD's by a rookie QB through his first 11 starts. Surpassing Peyton Manning.

Bout all i need to know.



Bradford is running a west coast offense that allows him to throw the ball 35-55 times a game.

Clausen is on a run first offense and will rarely if ever match Bradford in attempts.

Bradford is doing a really good job throwing short passes to running backs who gain yards after the catch. So is McCoy... go look at their leading receivers.

I've watched almost every Rams game this year thanks to Sunday ticket and I have rarely seen vertical passing from Bradford. It's tough to compare what he (or McCoy) are asked to do vs Clausen but they are doing it well. Those rookies succeeding does not mean Clausen is failing in a tougher system.... except for everyone that thinks he is of course.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:58 PM

The biggest difference being the Rams have created an offensive scheme that best utilizes Bradford's talents and skills as a QB.

The Panthers have been shoving their run first offense down every QB's throat who is/were on the roster and wonder why it's been difficult to find a franchise QB.

The most glaring fault of the Panther's coaching staff- not creating a program that will best use the personnel and their talents. Rather, they have developed a scheme and if someone on the roster doesn't match the skill set, oh well.

If Clausen were in the Rams offensive plan, he'd probably be thriving as well. Perhaps not to the level of Bradford, but he'd be enjoying more success than he is now.

The Panthers offensive coaching mindset is the equivalent of telling Nolan Ryan in his prime that he needs to start throwing more curve balls.

Edited by Anybodyhome, 02 December 2010 - 03:00 PM.


#14 TheRealDeal

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 03:00 PM

You don't need stats, just watch them play and if you can't see the difference then you haven't watched much football or are just a Clausen fan.

#15 panther4life

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 03:10 PM

You don't need stats, just watch them play and if you can't see the difference then you haven't watched much football or are just a Clausen fan.


Only reason I posted the stats, cuz of being saying Clausen sucks. If people watched much football or werent clausen haters these stats wouldnt need to be posted.

Biggest complaints I hear about Clausen
1.He's a checkdown machine

these stats show you against the same opponents vs. the 2 other rookie qb's he has a higher yards per average throw and throws more yards per game.


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