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Funny how I talked about how good Lewis was and how we would miss him this year and everyone said he wasn't very good and no big loss. Now Baker confirms what I said and mentions him by name. LOL at all the folks who said we wouldn't miss the vets.

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Funny how I talked about how good Lewis was and how we would miss him this year and everyone said he wasn't very good and no big loss. Now Baker confirms what I said and mentions him by name. LOL at all the folks who said we wouldn't miss the vets.

Where did Baker mention him by name?

Lewis is currently on the second string of the Houston Texans. Not sure how that qualifies as good. As if having him would have noticabley changed anything.

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I agree with the article 100%. While Brown hasn't showed greatness yet, he is still only 22 and should be a force next year. Hardy was the steal of the draft for us and he is already showing promise for us. If we can replace Hayden next year our defensive line should be dominate once again. I would rather see us draft a defensive tackle rather than QB unless we can get one in FA. This will make our defense very dominate.

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we need to be hitting FA hard looking for those DTs we need. much better choice there than in the draft.

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Where did Baker mention him by name?

Lewis is currently on the second string of the Houston Texans. Not sure how that qualifies as good. As if having him would have noticabley changed anything.

Your right, Gantt talks to Baker and they talk about the defensive ends and lack of production by the DT (reference to escape lanes) and Gantt does research and finds that this year the DTs combined have 8 pressures and Lewis alone last year had 22.

And you really don't see how things have fallen off since he left or that he was a major contributor last year?? How would things have changed? Over twice as many pressures from the DT position alone not counting whatever Kemo would have brought to the table. What part of that didn't you understand??

Hard to believe people can still argue that the veteran losses were not significant. It was the major and largely only thing that changed from last to this year.

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I agree with the article 100%. While Brown hasn't showed greatness yet, he is still only 22 and should be a force next year. Hardy was the steal of the draft for us and he is already showing promise for us. If we can replace Hayden next year our defensive line should be dominate once again. I would rather see us draft a defensive tackle rather than QB unless we can get one in FA. This will make our defense very dominate.

Brown won't be the force that either Johnson or Hardy will be next year. Brown has a great motor but needs to bulk up and get stronger.

As for the DTs, Hayden is actually one of the best this year. I would rather get rid of Johnson than Hayden (can't believe I am saying that).

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I see brown every game. Hard not to notice his non stop motor. He's been close to many sacks., and been part of the reason the opposing qb has to move around. When the defensive tackles are getting the pressure as often as they should, it makes it harder for the ends.

I like all the young ends we have.

Upgrade at the dt position (a much bigger need than qb IMO), will greatly improve our defense.

Works his ass off. Can't quite get there.

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Works his ass off. Can't quite get there.

Isn't big or strong enough to use bullrush or other strength moves. Has one spin move and can't hold the edge. At this point Hardy is a more complete DE than Brown. If Brown wants to be the next Freeney he is going to have to bulk up and develop more moves.

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Your right, Gantt talks to Baker and they talk about the defensive ends and lack of production by the DT (reference to escape lanes) and Gantt does research and finds that this year the DTs combined have 8 pressures and Lewis alone last year had 22.

And you really don't see how things have fallen off since he left or that he was a major contributor last year?? How would things have changed? Over twice as many pressures from the DT position alone not counting whatever Kemo would have brought to the table. What part of that didn't you understand??

Hard to believe people can still argue that the veteran losses were not significant. It was the major and largely only thing that changed from last to this year.

Im arguing over Lewis a. Him being on this team would have have made our DT situation from horrid to maybe average. Lewis is an average player who can play good on occasion. The fact that he's currently a second string proves as much. Twenty more pressures werent going to suddenly make this team better in the win column. Why is that so illogical?

I would not argue that for this one year most of those Vets would be upgrades. But thats not saying much. They would not make this team suddnely playoff bound. And if thats the case, why keep them? Most of them were older and without any great play. They were nto goingto be here much longer anyway.

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Im arguing over Lewis a. Him being on this team would have have made our DT situation from horrid to maybe average. Lewis is an average player who can play good on occasion. The fact that he's currently a second string proves as much. Twenty more pressures werent going to suddenly make this team better in the win column. Why is that so illogical?

I would not argue that for this one year most of those Vets would be upgrades. But thats not saying much. They would not make this team suddnely playoff bound. And if thats the case, why keep them? Most of them were older and without any great play. They were nto goingto be here much longer anyway.

First of all to say that a guy is a second stringer on another team means he would not be good here is faulty logic. He was a starter here last year and would have been the best DT on the team by far. He had twice the quarterback pressures himself than all the DTs have had this year combined. He would have made a difference on the team and should have been kept. As for would he guaranteed a playoff spot this year, no one can say that. But if we would have retained him, Moose, Jake, Harris and Hoover, for example, we wouldn't be focused mainly on the draft before December has even arrived.

The lack of veteran leadership and experience are the reasons we are 1-10 plain and simple.

And as for being here very long, that is my point. There was no reason to cut them. Jake, Lewis, Hoover, and Kemo were all on the last year of their contract. Moose would have been given a 1 year deal. Harris was the only one under a long term contract and he was traded. These guys were cut to save to save money this year not get rid of bad contracts that would caused cap problems down the road. That is more propaganda produced by the youth movement squad.

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