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#1 pantherfan81

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 03:34 PM

Lots of Questions about Luck/Harbaugh/Carolina/Grimm etc

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 03:51 PM

I didn't get much out of that, except that Harbaugh would cost more money that we think he would

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:03 PM

yeah, it seems the only thing he could find for us going after grimm and not harbaugh is that we wouldn't spend the money. he's paying too much attention to what richardson did this year.

i have more reason to believe that richardson will shell out the bucks for a top notch HC than ever before. this year the franchise screwed up and it was as much his fault as anyone's. he needs to energize the fanbase and a selection like grimm just isn't going to cut it.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:16 PM

yeah, it seems the only thing he could find for us going after grimm and not harbaugh is that we wouldn't spend the money. he's paying too much attention to what richardson did this year.

i have more reason to believe that richardson will shell out the bucks for a top notch HC than ever before. this year the franchise screwed up and it was as much his fault as anyone's. he needs to energize the fanbase and a selection like grimm just isn't going to cut it.


Yup, does he realize what Fox is making this year?

Fox is one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL. Until this year (with a lockout looming) JR has never hesitated to spend when it made sense to him, but because he doesn't spend wildly like Schneider or Jones people assume he won't try to compete with them dollar-for-dollar as soon as the CBA is resolved and there's no basis for that assumption except this one-year anomoly we're currently in the midst of.

On the flip side, there is much less pressure as the coach of the Panthers then in the white-hot spotlight as the coach of the Cowboys, 49ers, etc... People assume coaches want the "prestige" of coaching one of those organizations, but I think that's a falsehood in many cases. Coaches want to coach somewhere that is commited to supporting them in their quest to win championships and discounting this year, the Panthers have demonstrated that commitment as much as anyone.

Having the # 1 pick will be the trump card if Luck declares. I think most people realize the Panthers are a young, talented team with a few gaping holes in the roster right now (QB, DT, WR). Having the # 1 pick may be the determining factor in us pursuing Harbaugh as a HC, which would most certainly cause Luck to declare himself eligable.

In any case, it's going to be interesting to sit back and watch this all play out.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:29 PM

yeah, it seems the only thing he could find for us going after grimm and not harbaugh is that we wouldn't spend the money. he's paying too much attention to what richardson did this year.

i have more reason to believe that richardson will shell out the bucks for a top notch HC than ever before. this year the franchise screwed up and it was as much his fault as anyone's. he needs to energize the fanbase and a selection like grimm just isn't going to cut it.


True..but the problem I see is if your Andrew Luck and thinking about coming out would you want to come to a cheap organization?

I know Richardson is not cheap but everybody outside of Carolina seems to think so and maybe Luck would too.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:30 PM

this is very interesting, as long as we keep losing we just might pull this thing off

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:33 PM

True..but the problem I see is if your Andrew Luck and thinking about coming out would you want to come to a cheap organization?

I know Richardson is not cheap but everybody outside of Carolina seems to think so and maybe Luck would too.


I think if luck is smart enough to go to stanford he is smart enough to do some back digging and not look at one season.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:41 PM

True..but the problem I see is if your Andrew Luck and thinking about coming out would you want to come to a cheap organization?

I know Richardson is not cheap but everybody outside of Carolina seems to think so and maybe Luck would too.

what are the assurances that the team you got drafted by the next year would be anymore willing to spend money. he could get drafted by any number of really and legitimately cheap teams that haven't been to the playoffs in years and that are a whole lot less stable situations than here.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:51 PM

give me one reason why jim harbaugh would want to come to the panthers other than the giant "what if" that is the panthers having the number one pick, andrew luck declaring, and the panthers committing to selecting him.

the man will more than likely have much better opportunities and more attractive suitors than the panthers this year.

Edited by mr beauxjangles, 03 December 2010 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:54 PM

IF the whole idea behind dumping salaries wasn't to be cheap, but to prepare for 2011 or 2012, then picking up a big salary wouldn't scare JR at all and would be exactly the move that he set himself up for. So, that argument hold no water.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:13 PM

give me one reason why jim harbaugh would want to come to the panthers other than the giant "what if" that is the panthers having the number one pick, andrew luck declaring, and the panthers committing to selecting him.

the man will more than likely have much better opportunities and more attractive suitors than the panthers this year.

i gave a couple, but i'll answer directly.

1) the program is in rebuild mode and he would be working with a blank slate. that is the kind of challenge he is drawn to, evidenced by his previous employments.

2) the team is young, which would be a similar situation to what he has in college

3) the team has a good deal of talent already on it, it just needs better coaching

4) you don't have to deal with an ass clown owner like he would in dallas, oakland, tennessee, cincy, or washington

5) he'd have a lot of family nearby

6) tax situation isn't all that bad compared with places up north or what he's got to deal with in cali.

7) owner is known to pay big money to coaches

8) good bit of connections with panther organization already

9) he favors a solid run game which is exactly what he would have here

10) panthers are near to his heart. he has an indy racing team named after them.

that's just a few off the top of my head.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:25 PM

i gave a couple, but i'll answer directly.

1) the program is in rebuild mode and he would be working with a blank slate. that is the kind of challenge he is drawn to, evidenced by his previous employments.

2) the team is young, which would be a similar situation to what he has in college

3) the team has a good deal of talent already on it, it just needs better coaching

4) you don't have to deal with an ass clown owner like he would in dallas, oakland, tennessee, cincy, or washington

5) he'd have a lot of family nearby

6) tax situation isn't all that bad compared with places up north or what he's got to deal with in cali.

7) owner is known to pay big money to coaches

8) good bit of connections with panther organization already

9) he favors a solid run game which is exactly what he would have here

10) panthers are near to his heart. he has an indy racing team named after them.

that's just a few off the top of my head.


welll, uhhhh, yeah. good answer.

still think people are setting themselves for a serious disappointment.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:37 PM

10) panthers are near to his heart. he has an indy racing team named after them.


While Harbaugh is part owner of Panther Racing, it had that name back in the 90s and he didn't play here until 2001. Even then, he never got into a game, which is pretty unbelievable when you consider that Wienke, D. Craig and Matt Lytle were the other QBs.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:41 PM

meh...just because i really want the harbaugh/luck combo doens't mean i'll cry myself to sleep every night and renounce my fanship.

sure, i may weep for an hour or two, but i'll get over it.

that said, there are some choices that i think would be falt our bad ones and grimm is one of them. there are a few i would be happy with. but he isn't one of them.

other choices (not in order)...perry fewell, rob ryan, mike zimmer, sean mcdermott, brian schottenheimer...i'd also rather have cowher or gruden than grimm. if you have read or paid attention to any of my other posts concerning those two, you'd realize that isn't a statement i'd make lightly.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:44 PM

While Harbaugh is part owner of Panther Racing, it had that name back in the 90s and he didn't play here until 2001. Even then, he never got into a game, which is pretty unbelievable when you consider that Wienke, D. Craig and Matt Lytle were the other QBs.

bahhh...ok... he has a soft spot in his heart for panthers. i told you that was off the top of my head.

anyway, still a great choice and a lot of reasons.


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