Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Anyone Still Want to Defend Clausen?


  • Please log in to reply
328 replies to this topic

#286 googoodan

googoodan

    Memberest

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,759 posts
  • LocationBayside

Posted 12 December 2010 - 12:20 AM

And see that's what I expected Clausen to do when he came here. I thought he had an edge because he was in a pro system. He was already knowing of how to read the D and make his pass. Obviously he dose not and prob why he fell so far in the draft.


Running a pro style offense in college does not mean he opposed pro style defenses in college.

#287 panthers55

panthers55

    Starting all over again

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,105 posts
  • LocationAt the lake

Posted 12 December 2010 - 12:23 AM

this is one area where I kinda disagree.

It depends how we win and how many... one where we win in spite of him isn't really going to convince me of him. If we win because of Clausen, if he really shows something, he may secure his job... and plus, we'll probably be knocked out of the Luck sweepstakes, so then it goes to Newton versus Clausen. But again, what have I seen that makes me think that is possible?? Nothing.

so I'm just going to enjoy tomorrow's game and relax, knowing that if we see improvement, good, and if we don't, at least there's a nice draft pick waiting for us.


You got to stop thinking either or and think both. Nothing wrong with 2 guys battling it out. If clausen is a first rounder that fell, then he should be fine. But if he isn't, then he will be around for 4 years to learn to play like one or be the backup. With our team history, it isn't like all the quarterbacks don't get to play.

#288 mav1234

mav1234

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,951 posts

Posted 12 December 2010 - 12:38 AM

You got to stop thinking either or and think both. Nothing wrong with 2 guys battling it out. If clausen is a first rounder that fell, then he should be fine. But if he isn't, then he will be around for 4 years to learn to play like one or be the backup. With our team history, it isn't like all the quarterbacks don't get to play.


I know that Clausen will stick around whether we draft Luck or Newton or not; was just saying that if we don't end up in #1, I kinda think that there may be more pressure to trade down rather than to hope Newton falls to us depending on where we end up.

#289 Mr ocho nueve

Mr ocho nueve

    Cam can't have my Number

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,706 posts

Posted 12 December 2010 - 12:42 AM

I know that Clausen will stick around whether we draft Luck or Newton or not; was just saying that if we don't end up in #1, I kinda think that there may be more pressure to trade down rather than to hope Newton falls to us depending on where we end up.


I actually hope we trade down and upgrade our damn offensive line and wide recievers (even though I think our recievers are pretty good for rookies). We don't need a QB unless we get a new coach that just doens't like Jimmy. And lets face it, Matt Moore, St. Pierre, and Pike have a real small chance in sticking around next year.

#290 Proudiddy

Proudiddy

    The Thread Killer (Since 2004)

  • Moderators
  • 14,209 posts

Posted 12 December 2010 - 01:13 AM

this is one area where I kinda disagree.

It depends how we win and how many... one where we win in spite of him isn't really going to convince me of him. If we win because of Clausen, if he really shows something, he may secure his job... and plus, we'll probably be knocked out of the Luck sweepstakes, so then it goes to Newton versus Clausen. But again, what have I seen that makes me think that is possible?? Nothing.

so I'm just going to enjoy tomorrow's game and relax, knowing that if we see improvement, good, and if we don't, at least there's a nice draft pick waiting for us.


Yeah, as I've said, I don't see us winning anymore, so I think we're spinning our wheels discussing the possibilities, lol. BUT, even the games we've been close in with Clausen as the starter, I think would've been won in spite of him for the most part (except for the last 2 minutes of each game lol). So, I really don't see him making a huge leap from the "improvement" we saw from him last week and leading us to a victory on his back. He's really struggling.

But, I don't think I clearly expressed my main point, which P55 touched on... Clausen will still be here, most likely, regardless of what we do with the #1 pick. Whether we took Luck or Newton, Clausen will probably still be here, and will have to compete with that guy to start next year. I just don't see him going from how he's looked throughout his PT this season to carrying our team to ANY wins the final few weeks of this season. But, we'll see.

You got to stop thinking either or and think both. Nothing wrong with 2 guys battling it out. If clausen is a first rounder that fell, then he should be fine. But if he isn't, then he will be around for 4 years to learn to play like one or be the backup. With our team history, it isn't like all the quarterbacks don't get to play.


Agreed.

#291 KatsAzz

KatsAzz

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,042 posts

Posted 12 December 2010 - 09:56 AM

he has had some decent OL play in recent weeks. he also has had a decent ground attack the past 4 games.

only problem w/ that line of thought is there is little difference in Clausen's performance when he had lots of time or zero time.

not to mention, he continues to bail on plays instead of stepping up in the pocket.....which makes the OL look worse. Those are downs a functional QB takes a step up in the pocket and actually attempts to make a play (you see that several times a game by just about every other team in the NFL).

OL hasn't been great. no doubt. But when they give him time he is still just a bad QB.


That pretty well sums up Jimmy Clausen and his play,or lack thereoff.

#292 Miaoww

Miaoww

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,730 posts

Posted 12 December 2010 - 11:36 AM

this is one area where I kinda disagree.

It depends how we win and how many... one where we win in spite of him isn't really going to convince me of him. If we win because of Clausen, if he really shows something, he may secure his job... and plus, we'll probably be knocked out of the Luck sweepstakes, so then it goes to Newton versus Clausen. But again, what have I seen that makes me think that is possible?? Nothing.

so I'm just going to enjoy tomorrow's game and relax, knowing that if we see improvement, good, and if we don't, at least there's a nice draft pick waiting for us.


The thing is, Kasay and Williams have both taken wins off the board this season.

We could, potentially, be talking about how we have 3 wins ..... and yeah, talking about Newton, 'cos everyone hates Jimmy.

#293 communist

communist

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 152 posts

Posted 16 December 2010 - 07:36 PM

hm, sanchez had a great running game and a great protection last season...now let's look at his stats:
2009 NYJ 15 196 364 53.8 2444 6.7 12 65 20 8 63.0

#294 David Duke Is a Bad Person

David Duke Is a Bad Person

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 285 posts

Posted 16 December 2010 - 07:44 PM

Who ever is my QB, I will support him to death, because he is a Carolina Panther.

You can't expect me to trash my teams QB. To do so is un-American. :patriot:

I can only trash the enemy.

#295 panthers55

panthers55

    Starting all over again

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,105 posts
  • LocationAt the lake

Posted 16 December 2010 - 07:53 PM

hm, sanchez had a great running game and a great protection last season...now let's look at his stats:
2009 NYJ 15 196 364 53.8 2444 6.7 12 65 20 8 63.0


His stats this year aren't much better than last year. He has turned his TD/Int ration from less than .6 to 1.2 Still not great. The Jets win in spite of him based on great defense. He is completing only 53% of his passes and has a passer rating of 74. With a great team around him he looks okay. But he couldn't take a team on his back and propel them to very many wins.

Although in his rookie year he had 12 TDs passing. Much better than the 1 Clausen has produced in 7 losses.

#296 communist

communist

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 152 posts

Posted 16 December 2010 - 08:08 PM

His stats this year aren't much better than last year. He has turned his TD/Int ration from less than .6 to 1.2 Still not great. The Jets win in spite of him based on great defense. He is completing only 53% of his passes and has a passer rating of 74. With a great team around him he looks okay. But he couldn't take a team on his back and propel them to very many wins.

Although in his rookie year he had 12 TDs passing. Much better than the 1 Clausen has produced in 7 losses.

yes, the TD number is embarrasing but moore couldnt create much more with his 7 tds...

#297 CRA

CRA

    Senior Member

  • Moderators
  • 23,641 posts

Posted 16 December 2010 - 08:14 PM

yes, the TD number is embarrasing but moore couldnt create much more with his 7 tds...


Moore won a game....Moore wins games. It is really an insult to most QBs, even bad ones, to compare Clausen to them at this point.

#298 Fiz

Fiz

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,787 posts

Posted 16 December 2010 - 08:46 PM

i will defend clausen

#299 Fiz

Fiz

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,787 posts

Posted 16 December 2010 - 08:47 PM

wif my dillz

#300 Fiz

Fiz

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,787 posts

Posted 16 December 2010 - 08:47 PM

/charges up dillz


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Contact Us: info@carolinahuddle.com - IP Content Design by Joshua Tree / TitansReport.