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#1 Spaceballs83

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 07:28 PM

and everybody else in the run for #1 loses all their games as well. Where does that put us? I'm terribly concerned about winning that game, and taking us out of #1

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 07:55 AM

Bengals won a division game, so they'd be #3

dunno how Buffalo and Carolina would turn out.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 08:26 AM

• The team with the lowest winning percentage at the end of the previous season drafts first in the NFL Draft.

• The rest of the teams are placed in order from lowest winning percentage to the highest.

• The Super Bowl winner drafts last, even if they do not have the highest winning percentage.

• The Super Bowl loser drafts next to last.

• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.

• If a playoff and non-playoff team end the season with the same winning percentage, the non-playoff team selects before the playoff team regardless of strength of schedule.


You do the math

#4 unicar15

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 08:44 AM

I'd say we have a tougher SOS having to play the AFC North. Lets just lose and not have to worry about it. Hopefully Fox doesn't screw us as he walks out the door. We all know how he likes to win pointless games to pad his stats...

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 09:01 AM

Better start pulling hard for the Bengals, Lions and Bills because no way we are gonna lose to arizona... that team is a mess.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 09:59 AM

Better start pulling hard for the Bengals, Lions and Bills because no way we are gonna lose to arizona... that team is a mess.


As it stand now, the Panthers SOS is by far the weakest of the 4 worst teams.
Opponents wins:

Panthers - 122
Bills - 128
Lions - 130
Bengals - 138

In other words, the Bengals don't have a chance at the #1 overall pick unless the Panthers win 2 games AND the Lions and Bills both win 1 more game.. which is highly unlikely. The Panthers would still be #1 even if they beat the Cardinals.

#7 scpanther22

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 10:15 AM

What Gantt said about this

At the moment, 3 of 4. But SoS can change weekly. RT @cabate2000 if panthers somehow beat ARI where wil they fall between other 2-W teams?

Games so far, yes, Still have two with ATL, one with PIT. RT @MichaelProcton I saw them with the easiest SoS by a pretty wide margin.

@joereedy Wait until the Bengals draft in front of the Panthers because of SoS. You'll hear the howling from Charlotte all the way up there.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 11:09 AM

As it stand now, the Panthers SOS is by far the weakest of the 4 worst teams.
Opponents wins:

Panthers - 122
Bills - 128
Lions - 130
Bengals - 138

In other words, the Bengals don't have a chance at the #1 overall pick unless the Panthers win 2 games AND the Lions and Bills both win 1 more game.. which is highly unlikely. The Panthers would still be #1 even if they beat the Cardinals.

You're using last year's SOS totals.

Here are the opponent win totals at this point for this season:

Panthers - 80
Bills - 83
Lions - 83
Bengals - 82

So right now, even with two wins we would still be at #1. However, we still have three games against teams with the best records in Atlanta and Pittsburgh. So if we expand this out to include the opponents in the final four weeks, things change (of course this is only what the opponent's win totals are at this point since the games have not been played yet).

Panthers - 112
Bills - 113
Lions - 109
Bengals - 110

Therefore, based on the opponents win totals through the end of the season (minus any future wins/losses), we would pick 3rd if we somehow manage to beat Arizona and everyone else loses out. And if Atlanta does rest all of their starters in the finale and we also pull that one out, we'd likely be picking 5th.

Technically, it is possible that we could still pick #1 if we beat Arizons. However, while the exact positioning may change if the opponents for the other teams vying for #1 win and ours loses, the far more likely scenerio is that if we do win, well likely be picking either 3rd or 4th. Our final oppononts, minus Arizona, are just so much better compared to everyone else's.

Just for context, here are the final opponents of each team fighting for #1 and their opponent's records:

Panthers
Falcons (10-2)
Cardinals (3-9)
Steelers (9-3)
Facloms (10-2)
Total (32-16)

Bills
Browns (5-7)
Dolphins (6-6)
Patriots (10-2)
Jets (9-3)
Total (30-18)

Lions
Packers (8-4)
Buccaneers (7-5)
Dolphins (6-6)
Vikings (5-7)
Total (26-22)

Bengals
Steelers (9-3)
Browns (5-7)
Chargers (6-6)
Ravens (8-4)
Total (28-20)

Edited by Woodie, 11 December 2010 - 11:11 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2010 - 11:26 AM

Basically if we win, we are #3 =(

#10 R0CKnR0LLA

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 11:29 AM

Gave woodie rep for adding a useful informative post to the Huddle.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 11:42 AM

You're using last year's SOS totals.

Here are the opponent win totals at this point for this season:

Panthers - 80
Bills - 83
Lions - 83
Bengals - 82

So right now, even with two wins we would still be at #1. However, we still have three games against teams with the best records in Atlanta and Pittsburgh. So if we expand this out to include the opponents in the final four weeks, things change (of course this is only what the opponent's win totals are at this point since the games have not been played yet).

Panthers - 112
Bills - 113
Lions - 109
Bengals - 110

Therefore, based on the opponents win totals through the end of the season (minus any future wins/losses), we would pick 3rd if we somehow manage to beat Arizona and everyone else loses out. And if Atlanta does rest all of their starters in the finale and we also pull that one out, we'd likely be picking 5th.

Technically, it is possible that we could still pick #1 if we beat Arizons. However, while the exact positioning may change if the opponents for the other teams vying for #1 win and ours loses, the far more likely scenerio is that if we do win, well likely be picking either 3rd or 4th. Our final oppononts, minus Arizona, are just so much better compared to everyone else's.

Just for context, here are the final opponents of each team fighting for #1 and their opponent's records:

Panthers
Falcons (10-2)
Cardinals (3-9)
Steelers (9-3)
Facloms (10-2)
Total (32-16)

Bills
Browns (5-7)
Dolphins (6-6)
Patriots (10-2)
Jets (9-3)
Total (30-18)

Lions
Packers (8-4)
Buccaneers (7-5)
Dolphins (6-6)
Vikings (5-7)
Total (26-22)

Bengals
Steelers (9-3)
Browns (5-7)
Chargers (6-6)
Ravens (8-4)
Total (28-20)


somebody who has time should break down the teams that i bolded upcoming schedules so we can see what their final sos might look like

#12 panther4life

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 11:47 AM

so basically we need to become fans of every afc north, afc east and nfc north teams to win out, while rooting for the south teams to lose out, except atl of course.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 01:50 PM

Don't worry, our team will lose out. We lost BAD to the bauman led bears, we can lose to everyone not named David Carr...


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