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#1 Peppermint9030

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:36 PM

One thing I could see changing is the saefty poistion, Chris Harris I believe will flourish under meeks as will godfrey. I mean for years this man coached bob sanders and Bathea. With that said, I think our front four will have to change, now that we have guarenteed a 4 man rush for most of the game we will have to get solid bookends. (Freeny, mathis) We cant come out there with charles, dlew, kemo and brayton and expect to apply any kind of pressure can we? I excpect some real big free agent signings. Possibly letting Gross walk, cutting lucas, goings etc. and signing haynesworth and suggs. If we lose pep and dont get a high priced de or dt with this system we wont go anywhere. But seeing the talent in indy, I excpect some changes.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:52 PM

One thing I could see changing is the saefty poistion, Chris Harris I believe will flourish under meeks as will godfrey. I mean for years this man coached bob sanders and Bathea. With that said, I think our front four will have to change, now that we have guarenteed a 4 man rush for most of the game we will have to get solid bookends. (Freeny, mathis) We cant come out there with charles, dlew, kemo and brayton and expect to apply any kind of pressure can we? I excpect some real big free agent signings. Possibly letting Gross walk, cutting lucas, goings etc. and signing haynesworth and suggs. If we lose pep and dont get a high priced de or dt with this system we wont go anywhere. But seeing the talent in indy, I excpect some changes.


fox is still HC...so gross will stay goings is gone...and lucas idk.
we are not makeing any big free agent signings...we never do

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:53 PM

fox is still HC...so gross will stay goings is gone...and lucas idk.
we are not makeing any big free agent signings...we never do


Incorrect.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:54 PM

There is no way they let Gross walk

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:55 PM

Incorrect.


well in the fox era..i cant think of one big free agent signing...

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:56 PM

We won't turn into a colts defense. There will be changes but keep in mind this is fox's team.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:56 PM

Gross does not walk because of a Defensive Policy. Cover-2 or Tampa-2 (yes they're different) can be played with low "value" players. Many underrated players flourish under the scheme. I personally think C. Johnson moves inside fulltime. Brayton and Incumbent on the outside. Kemo and Lewis rotating. We won't be making a huge splash in free agency, but a Tampa-2 defense doesn't call for first round talent on the defensive line. You don't need it. Look for D-line in 2-3 round and probably again in the later rounds. We might see a Linebacker drafted too. Seward walks, Conner takes his place in the middle. I think James Anderson sticks around for backup to Thomas Davis. Our Linebackers should really flourish in whatever scheme Meeks provides. If this so-called pep trade occurs (however it occurs) we may get some needed picks for other positions as well.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:58 PM

well in the fox era..i cant think of one big free agent signing...


Kemo, Hartwig, Lucas...

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:59 PM

well in the fox era..i cant think of one big free agent signing...


Ill help you out a bit then.

Ken Lucas
Stephen Davis


Ill stop there cause im drunk and tired.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:00 PM

Kemo, Hartwig, Lucas...


none of those players were big free agent signs...more like middle of the road were we like to pick up free agents

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:00 PM

Gross does not walk because of a Defensive Policy. Cover-2 or Tampa-2 (yes they're different) can be played with low "value" players. Many underrated players flourish under the scheme. I personally think C. Johnson moves inside fulltime. Brayton and Incumbent on the outside. Kemo and Lewis rotating. We won't be making a huge splash in free agency, but a Tampa-2 defense doesn't call for first round talent on the defensive line. You don't need it. Look for D-line in 2-3 round and probably again in the later rounds. We might see a Linebacker drafted too. Seward walks, Conner takes his place in the middle. I think James Anderson sticks around for backup to Thomas Davis. Our Linebackers should really flourish in whatever scheme Meeks provides. If this so-called pep trade occurs (however it occurs) we may get some needed picks for other positions as well.


Wouldn't it make more sense to put Brayton inside instead of Johnson if we were to do that? I mean, given he has experience playing DE himself?

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:03 PM

Wouldn't it make more sense to put Brayton inside instead of Johnson if we were to do that? I mean, given he has experience playing DE himself?


It's just a feeling, I have nothing to back it up with. But yeah, it probably would. Although I see Brayton as more of a DE Athlete than someone who can fight through guards.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:05 PM

none of those players were big free agent signs...more like middle of the road were we like to pick up free agents


Lucas lead the NFC in Ints the season before we picked him up. Hartwig was considered the best Lineman in FA.

Most people would consider them big signings, seeing as they were both flourishing as top players on their teams.

But I guess to you big signings means the best player in the league.

Some people just don't understand.

Edit: Oh, and Kemo was one of the under appreciated center pieces of one of the top Defenses in the leagues for several years, even Ray Lewis can attest to that and thats good enough for me, idk about you though.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:06 PM

Gross does not walk because of a Defensive Policy. Cover-2 or Tampa-2 (yes they're different) can be played with low "value" players. Many underrated players flourish under the scheme. I personally think C. Johnson moves inside fulltime. Brayton and Incumbent on the outside. Kemo and Lewis rotating. We won't be making a huge splash in free agency, but a Tampa-2 defense doesn't call for first round talent on the defensive line. You don't need it. Look for D-line in 2-3 round and probably again in the later rounds. We might see a Linebacker drafted too. Seward walks, Conner takes his place in the middle. I think James Anderson sticks around for backup to Thomas Davis. Our Linebackers should really flourish in whatever scheme Meeks provides. If this so-called pep trade occurs (however it occurs) we may get some needed picks for other positions as well.


yea and the lions have been saying that about the Tampa 2 for years, "all we need is system guys" thats gotten tham no where. Look at tampa, I mean they used a second overall (i think maybe 3rd) on gaines adams, simeon rice was in that system for years, derrick brooks, warren sapp era. You DO need big names to run the tampa 2 sucessfully, rhonde barber, john lynch the list goes on.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:10 PM

yea and the lions have been saying that about the Tampa 2 for years, "all we need is system guys" thats gotten tham no where. Look at tampa, I mean they used a second overall (i think maybe 3rd) on gaines adams, simeon rice was in that system for years, derrick brooks, warren sapp era. You DO need big names to run the tampa 2 sucessfully, rhonde barber, john lynch the list goes on.


First off, we aren't the lions. Secondly, a lot of those guys on tampa's d BECAME big names. They weren't all big names coming out of college or big free agent pickups. They used a 4th overall on Gaines Adams because Rice was getting old. Hell their entire defense is getting old. We already have Very Athletic Linebackers to run the Tampa-2, Our corners can adjust to it, the only problem is D-line.


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