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What will meeks bring to this squad?

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none of those players were big free agent signs...more like middle of the road were we like to pick up free agents

Lucas lead the NFC in Ints the season before we picked him up. Hartwig was considered the best Lineman in FA.

Most people would consider them big signings, seeing as they were both flourishing as top players on their teams.

But I guess to you big signings means the best player in the league.

Some people just don't understand.

Edit: Oh, and Kemo was one of the under appreciated center pieces of one of the top Defenses in the leagues for several years, even Ray Lewis can attest to that and thats good enough for me, idk about you though.

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Gross does not walk because of a Defensive Policy. Cover-2 or Tampa-2 (yes they're different) can be played with low "value" players. Many underrated players flourish under the scheme. I personally think C. Johnson moves inside fulltime. Brayton and Incumbent on the outside. Kemo and Lewis rotating. We won't be making a huge splash in free agency, but a Tampa-2 defense doesn't call for first round talent on the defensive line. You don't need it. Look for D-line in 2-3 round and probably again in the later rounds. We might see a Linebacker drafted too. Seward walks, Conner takes his place in the middle. I think James Anderson sticks around for backup to Thomas Davis. Our Linebackers should really flourish in whatever scheme Meeks provides. If this so-called pep trade occurs (however it occurs) we may get some needed picks for other positions as well.

yea and the lions have been saying that about the Tampa 2 for years, "all we need is system guys" thats gotten tham no where. Look at tampa, I mean they used a second overall (i think maybe 3rd) on gaines adams, simeon rice was in that system for years, derrick brooks, warren sapp era. You DO need big names to run the tampa 2 sucessfully, rhonde barber, john lynch the list goes on.

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yea and the lions have been saying that about the Tampa 2 for years, "all we need is system guys" thats gotten tham no where. Look at tampa, I mean they used a second overall (i think maybe 3rd) on gaines adams, simeon rice was in that system for years, derrick brooks, warren sapp era. You DO need big names to run the tampa 2 sucessfully, rhonde barber, john lynch the list goes on.

First off, we aren't the lions. Secondly, a lot of those guys on tampa's d BECAME big names. They weren't all big names coming out of college or big free agent pickups. They used a 4th overall on Gaines Adams because Rice was getting old. Hell their entire defense is getting old. We already have Very Athletic Linebackers to run the Tampa-2, Our corners can adjust to it, the only problem is D-line.

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we're not going to run the tampa-2

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we're not going to run the tampa-2

We probably aren't, but even Tampa-2 teams don't run Tampa 2 coverage all the time. We'll probably have a package associated with it.

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We probably aren't, but even Tampa-2 teams don't run Tampa 2 coverage all the time. We'll probably have a package associated with it.

no i agree with you a %100 our lbs are fine, and our secondary is, but no matter what d we run, this line wont cut it.

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we're not going to run the tampa-2

Why not? We already run alot of cover 2 and the only big diifference is putting the middle linebacker further back in coverage. Beason has the ability to play in space as well as crash the line.

I am not a great proponent of the cover 2/Tampa 2 unless we can get a lot of pressure. Still there are some teams that do very well with it. Perhaps Meeks can do what Lewis could not which is to teach our secondary how to play zone. If we could be as consistent on defense as Tampa, I am sure I could learn to like it. It has always been said that it doesn't take as good an athlete to play in a system like a Tampa 2 compared to a man scheme. They are good tacklers and hitters but not great cover guys.

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cover 2 is not a package, it's a whole system.

Fox would be foolish to not run it and just make Meeks (who has actually been a better defensive coordinator than he was) call his plays.

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we're not going to run the tampa-2

There is no chance in hell we a running Tampa-2. That formation is weak against the run, so you need outstanding run stuffing DTs. The Colts can play Tampa-2 without run stuffers because they score a sh*tload of points and opposing teams MUST throw to keep up. We're not running Tampa-2 without Peyton Manning, or big changes at the DT postion.

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so we brought in meeks to call foxs plays?

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There is no chance in hell we a running Tampa-2. That formation is weak against the run, so you need outstanding run stuffing DTs. The Colts can play Tampa-2 without run stuffers because they score a sh*tload of points and opposing teams MUST throw to keep up. We're not running Tampa-2 without Peyton Manning, or big changes at the DT postion.

The Tampa 2 doesn't have to be weak against the run. Tampa has been close to us in run defense for the past 4 or 5 years. Plus their passing defense has been better. Teams run against them because they struggle to pass against them not because it is easy. It is true that the middle linebacker plays deeper in coverage but it just means he has to be mobile and quick which Beason surely is.

If we keep some big guys on the Dline we can be good against the run and the pass. Might be an opportunity for a little guy Like Hillee Taylor to get some PT. He should be around 255 by the time the season starts next year.

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I'll be happy to see the Tampa-2 when we get a LB faster than Diggs, and DT better than Lewis. Even then I don't like Tampa-2. I just don't like it lol. Yes it's better verses the deep pass.

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