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#1 mav1234

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:25 PM

Yasinskas seems absolutely certain that Hurney is confident enough in Clausen that he will pass on Luck if he declares. This coming from his recent posts on the matter.

Yas has some inside info, so it's very possible he is on the right track.

I hope not.

Links: http://espn.go.com/b...he-columnists-8 and some subsequent ones.

Edited by mav1234, 14 December 2010 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:26 PM

Link and Pat has no "inside info"

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:26 PM

Pat Yas is to the Panthers as Peter King is to Journalism.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:27 PM

The Nightmare Before Christmas

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:28 PM

If we are in position to draft luck and hurney says no, he needs to be fired on the spot

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:30 PM

also, does HUUUUUUURRRRRRRRney watch our games? clausen is fuging horrible, if you cant see this you are blind

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:30 PM

also remember Pat Yas is an idiot and most of the shiit he predicts never comes true.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:31 PM

This might be why Smitty had himself a meeting.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:31 PM

Yas is doing the journalistic version of "made ya look". If he had gone with the logical choice then no one would pay any attention. But he went with illogical and his name gets mentioned. Sometimes you have to say something stupid in order to be heard.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:32 PM

Hurney knows Clausen is playing horrible don't even try to think otherwise.

That said Hurney also probably knows a lot more about why exactly Clausen is playing horrible than most of us and whether it is something that can be solved or if it is a lost cause.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:33 PM

Yasinskas seems absolutely certain that Hurney is confident enough in Clausen that he will pass on Luck if he declares. This coming from his recent posts on the matter.

Yas has some inside info, so it's very possible he is on the right track.

I hope not.


well, that is simple. Fox and Hurney have always been viewed as a package deal. Goodbye Hurney.

Jerry ain't dumb. If he goes into next year w/ Clausen being the guy.......that will hurt his pocketbook. Fans would be dumb to continue to pump money into a franchise doing that kind of stuff.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:34 PM

If we are in position to draft luck and hurney says no, he needs to be fired on the spot


Weather Hurney drafts Luck or not, I am not impressed of him as a GM.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:36 PM

it's all speculation

Shannon in Raleigh, N.C., writes: I have followed you since your Charlotte Observer days in the Queen City and respect most of your columns. I have a problem with your effort to give Jimmy Clausen any type of hope in NC. You have influence with our fan base and some of our bigwigs inside the organization. Please, please stop trying to find hope in this guy.

Pat Yasinskas: I never have said I think Clausen is the answer. All I've said (repeatedly) is I think it's impossible to judge him on his performance this season because of the entire meltdown all around him. Maybe he ends up being a bust and maybe he ends up being a decent starter in the NFL. I just don't think you can tell much of anything at this point. Also, part of the reason I write that is because, yes, I do talk to some people in the organization who will still be around next year and some of them actually believe Clausen can be good. Part of my job is to let you know what the decision makers are thinking. We don't know what the new coach will see in Clausen, but I'm just trying to let you know that some important people want to see what he can do when given a fair shot in a legitimate NFL offense. I don't know if that's a good idea or a bad idea, but Carolina fans might want to start facing reality and bracing themselves for more of Clausen.

http://espn.go.com/b...some-draft-luck

Great, so the Panthers get the first pick in the draft. The conventional wisdom is that the first player picked in the draft will be Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.

Oh, that’s just wonderful. I can see it now. About this time next year, the team’s “leader’’ and best player will come out and say something like “He ain’t in Stanford anymore, that’s for sure’’.

Listen, I know this might not be what a lot of Carolina fans want to hear, but I think there’s still a good chance Jimmy Clausen is the quarterback of this team going forward. I’m not saying I’m sold on Clausen by any means. In fact, I don’t think you can even judge him on this season because he’s been in an offense that’s been beyond dysfunctional.

I’m saying Clausen might be the guy going forward because the people that will be sticking around with the Panthers next season (and that list doesn’t include coach John Fox) still think Clausen can be a good NFL quarterback.

That said, those same people also realize they might not even a choice other than to take a talent like Luck. But other than the Panthers winning a couple of their last three games, there are a couple scenarios where the Panthers might not end up with Luck.

First off, there’s a common assumption that Luck, a junior, automatically will enter the draft. Some people who are watching this situation very closely are saying they’re hearing Luck might stay at Stanford for his senior season.

Then, there’s one other thing to keep in mind. It’s entirely possible the Panthers could try to trade out of the top spot and add some additional picks. They did that once before.

In their expansion season (1995), the Panthers briefly held the No. 1 pick. Then, they traded out of that spot. Cincinnati had the first pick and took Penn State running back Ki-Jana Carter. Carolina took Penn State quarterback Kerry Collins with the fifth overall pick.

Speaking of Penn State guys, when I was talking to Carolina general manager Marty Hurney not too long ago, I offered him a little advice. I told him he can turn this thing around if he goes out and drafts some more Penn State players.

Then, I told Hurney who I think he should take with the No. 1 overall pick -- Penn State running back Evan Royster. I was serious about the first part, but even a Penn State fan can’t really believe Royster is the top pick in the draft or even a first-round choice.

Hurney knew I was joking and laughed. It was kind of nice to hear a laugh from a guy who hasn’t been able to do much of that recently.



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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:38 PM

Yeah, its speculation - it tends to be - but this is not unlike what some of us said to explain why Clausen should start over Moore before.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:39 PM

If anybody comes in and says they can win with clausen is delusional just like pat


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