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#11 Ohio

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:43 PM

i guess AZ's solution is getting more WRs then?

the receivers we have are good enough to get the job done if we have a better QB.


No AZ should draft a QB and give him more then 1 year of development, like Clausen. Boy come draft day your going to get hammered if we dont take Luck.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:50 PM

how am i going to get hammered? it isn't that big of a deal. if people try to rub ny nose in it i'll be laughing at the failed attempts you and others will do at trying to make me look bad. i won't/don't care. sorry if you take this stuff on a message boardmore seriously than i do.

i know you are content being one of 5 people on the planet that don't think that luck has amazing potential and would make a much bigger impact than clausen no matter how many years you give him to develop.

luck is just a superior player. if they were coming out the same year, luck would still easily be the better prospect. there is no reason that we should feel forced to stay with clausen when someone with that potential is available.

if clausen hadn't stunk it up so bad, then he might be worth holding out for another year and seeing if he develops, but he just simply hasn't been able to and i don't care whose fault it is. you don't pass up on a franchise QB if you don't have one in place. we don't.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:08 PM

how am i going to get hammered? it isn't that big of a deal. if people try to rub ny nose in it i'll be laughing at the failed attempts you and others will do at trying to make me look bad. i won't/don't care. sorry if you take this stuff on a message boardmore seriously than i do.

i know you are content being one of 5 people on the planet that don't think that luck has amazing potential and would make a much bigger impact than clausen no matter how many years you give him to develop.

luck is just a superior player. if they were coming out the same year, luck would still easily be the better prospect. there is no reason that we should feel forced to stay with clausen when someone with that potential is available.

if clausen hadn't stunk it up so bad, then he might be worth holding out for another year and seeing if he develops, but he just simply hasn't been able to and i don't care whose fault it is. you don't pass up on a franchise QB if you don't have one in place. we don't.


Thats where people dont take you seriously. If you believe that Clausen and Luck came out last year, Luck would NOT be the better prospect. If he was soooo great then why did Harbaugh just have him and the ball off every time last year? Obviously because he wasn't as great as you think.

And tell me how many games potential has won. You wont hear any football coaches brag about potential or anything like that. So I can tell you're probably not around football outside the huddle.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:26 PM

Thats where people dont take you seriously. If you believe that Clausen and Luck came out last year, Luck would NOT be the better prospect. If he was soooo great then why did Harbaugh just have him and the ball off every time last year? Obviously because he wasn't as great as you think.

And tell me how many games potential has won. You wont hear any football coaches brag about potential or anything like that. So I can tell you're probably not around football outside the huddle.

i think you'll find that most people here think you are pretty much a joke, but you shouldn't let that effect your self esteem, just like you shouldn't worry if someone doesn't continue a conversation with you somewhere in here. anyways, i don't care who does or doesn't take me seriously on some message board.

back on topic, if clausen and luck came out this year, luck would be the better prospect and you will find few who don't agree with that. of course clausen would have been considered a better prospect last year. luck had only one yuear under his belt and no they didn't hand off all the time, but the handed off quite a bit, just like they should for any QB that is new to a situation. give them limited opportunities to throw to help them grow. you can tell a lot about them by their limited number of passes. you can tell even more by the amount of passes they are entrusted to throw the following year. this year, clausen has looked like crap with his limited opportunities. sure, some can be blamed on the circumstances, but a lot of it has to be blamed on his inability to handle the pressures and competition that comes with the pro game.

at best all clausen has is potential and that has been disappearing as the season has gone on and weaknesses have taken over. when all you have is potential to go on, you take the guy with the most.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:38 PM

i think you'll find that most people here think you are pretty much a joke, but you shouldn't let that effect your self esteem, just like you shouldn't worry if someone doesn't continue a conversation with you somewhere in here. anyways, i don't care who does or doesn't take me seriously on some message board.

back on topic, if clausen and luck came out this year, luck would be the better prospect and you will find few who don't agree with that. of course clausen would have been considered a better prospect last year. luck had only one yuear under his belt and no they didn't hand off all the time, but the handed off quite a bit, just like they should for any QB that is new to a situation. give them limited opportunities to throw to help them grow. you can tell a lot about them by their limited number of passes. you can tell even more by the amount of passes they are entrusted to throw the following year. this year, clausen has looked like crap with his limited opportunities. sure, some can be blamed on the circumstances, but a lot of it has to be blamed on his inability to handle the pressures and competition that comes with the pro game.

at best all clausen has is potential and that has been disappearing as the season has gone on and weaknesses have taken over. when all you have is potential to go on, you take the guy with the most.


Me a joke? Your the one that has "draft luck" tattooed on your head. I have given solid arguements to not drafting him, and you have refused to say any of them are valid. You are the town goon, every town has them. I love to hear the opposing sides, you on the other hand get your feelings hurt when we dont agree and make you listen to the truth.

You just admitted that Luck has pretty much had 1 year of throwing the ball a significant amount. In the words of Denny Green "If you wanna crown his ass, then you crown him!!!". Like I said, he led Stanford to ZERO, 0 points in the 2nd half against Oregon, who has a horrific defense.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 03:32 AM

Me a joke? Your the one that has "draft luck" tattooed on your head. I have given solid arguements to not drafting him, and you have refused to say any of them are valid. You are the town goon, every town has them. I love to hear the opposing sides, you on the other hand get your feelings hurt when we dont agree and make you listen to the truth.

You just admitted that Luck has pretty much had 1 year of throwing the ball a significant amount. In the words of Denny Green "If you wanna crown his ass, then you crown him!!!". Like I said, he led Stanford to ZERO, 0 points in the 2nd half against Oregon, who has a horrific defense.


you are a joke do the world a favor and commit suicide when we draft luck and he becomes a legend.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 06:11 AM

QB is no good if they dont have noone to catch

WR is priority.


Please stop posting that you would draft a WR ahead of Luck...its just getting stupid. Our receivers are not as terrible as everyone thinks. They have NOBODY throwing them the ball, that is the problem.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 08:36 AM

i noticed last night that Clausen stares down 1 guy the whole time during a play. and when he doesnt stare down one guy and actually starts looking for other recievers, he looks at each one for 3 or 4 seconds...

also, he may be the most inaccurate deep ball thrower ive ever seen. missed Smith wide open for a td(threw it behind him and to the wrong shoulder). and another i cant remember right now. yeah, Luck will be a panther if he comes out. if not...

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 05:00 PM

you are a joke do the world a favor and commit suicide when we draft luck and he becomes a legend.


It wont matter how good or AWFUL he could be, he'll always be a legend in the minds of ignorant people like yourself.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:05 PM

I'm pretty sure I've seen plenty of teams find stud WR throughout the entire draft and FA for that matter. However franchise QB's aren't as easy to find. AJ Green will be a good player but he won't be wearing a Carolina jersey doing it.