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Mr. Scot

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Thats very true. We've been waiting for nastiness on our defense for some time. The move of Thomas Davis to WLB was supposed to open him up so he could hit people and play with his speed more. I was hoping to see him make some hard hits.

Other than Harris' knocking out that Guard 3 times in a row, I didn't notice him make too many hard hits.

Godfrey laid the wood a few times, but they were never head on...

Our defense played through the '07 year and the '06 year even when the season was over for us. They kept playing for the coach, but we haven't been an aggressive/hard hitting defense for some time.

We could call it "Heart". But I don't think that's it. I think it's playing with a killer mentality. In the Arizona game, we were helping the other team get up off the ground... When we should have been licking our chops to put them on the ground again.

Within those 60 minutes, we have no friends. We lend no humanitarian aide. It's an all out war and every time the other team's offense gets on the field, we take that as an insult because we didn't hurt them enough to give up.

It's the line of thinking that counts. That's what Dan Morgan brought. He played old school football and use his body as a lethal weapon. (Unfortunately, thats the same reason he can't play now)

But regardless, our Defense just isn't nasty. We need to get mean on that side of the ball.

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it all goes back to the black glove award.

the guys were hitting hard trying to win it and when they took it away they got soft.

it needs to be brought back. screw the pansies worrying about people getting hurt.

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it all goes back to the black glove award.

the guys were hitting hard trying to win it and when they took it away they got soft.

it needs to be brought back. screw the pansies worrying about people getting hurt.

I'm sayin, there are some brutal D's out there... Ravens and Steelers game was a beautiful game for any fan of Defense...

They play nasty. They don't show unsportsmanlike conduct on the field.. But they still play nasty.

We don't have that. We haven't had that for a long time.

We need that.

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Our linebackers were great this year, Davis included, any opinion to the contrary is flat out wrong.

Ability-wise I would agree.

But defenses also thrive on intimidation. This is where we're lacking all around.

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it all goes back to the black glove award.

the guys were hitting hard trying to win it and when they took it away they got soft.

it needs to be brought back. screw the pansies worrying about people getting hurt.

It does make you wonder why that went away.

It's also worth discussing whether Davis propensity for hard hits dropped with his switch in positions.

They play nasty. They don't show unsportsmanlike conduct on the field.. But they still play nasty.

Glad you mentioned that. Some folks thought sportsmanship was the problem. I disagree with that. You can be intimidating and hit hard while remaining a good sport.

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They play nasty. They don't show unsportsmanlike conduct on the field.. But they still play nasty.

Steelers yes, Ravens no. Watch the Ravens on D. They take cheap shots after the whistle where the ref can't see. I have zero respect for their defense. They are thugs.

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It does make you wonder why that went away.

It's also worth discussing whether Davis propensity for hard hits dropped with his switch in positions.

Glad you mentioned that. Some folks thought sportsmanship was the problem. I disagree with that. You can be intimidating and hit hard while remaining a good sport.

i can't remember who it was that reported it going away but whoever it was asked the players about it and it was because the league was cracking down big time on big hits (wussy league officials) and they thought that it might be seen as an unfavorable thing to be doing.

i thought it was a great motivator.

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Our linebackers were great this year, Davis included, any opinion to the contrary is flat out wrong.
they were great but the constant level of ferocity went down quite a bit. they weren't as intimidating as they had been.

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He doesn't get the chances because he isn't as athletic, so ya I agree.

Reed is on my mancrush list as well.:biggrinjester:

Yup, not saying that he can't hit as hard, or harder, just not as consistently. That just comes from them being super athletic, and fast, while also having enough ass to half kill someone. Very few are as fast as Ed, and also can hit that hard.

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I think having that "nasty" defense is a way to be successful so in that I agree with you but I don't think you have to be that to be a successful defense.

Maybe its just me but when I think of the Tampa defense and even the New England defense I don't think about a team that plays with a nasty demenour. I think of defenses that are smart, oppurtuntistic and cunging.

A friend (a Steelers fan) and I were having a conversation about the New England defense just the other day. It really is amazing that they have a good defense at all. The players on that team throughout their run have never been what I would consider to be the ideal players. Most of the players on that team have benefited more from their mind and ability to run the scheme than from their natural physical talents. I'm not saying they don't have players with physical talents but they not rely simply on those physical talents to be successful.

Maybe what this team needs is that nasty demoure that Baltimore and Pittsburgh has. Maybe this team needs a scheme (for lack of a better word) that will allow them to be "quite techniquians". Now that Meeks has been hired and his style would be more of the Tampa and Indy defenses, let him do what he does best. I'd love to have a Pittburgh or Baltimore type defense but at the same time I'd take a New England or Tampa type defense as well if the result is a championship.

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