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Something that bothers me about Luck

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Strength of conference is over-rated, IMO

Flacco played at Delaware

Roethlisberger played at Miami(Ohio)

Rivers played at NCState which is weaker than the PAC10

Favre played at SoMiss

It is?

Manning - Tennessee

Brady- Michigan

Rodgers- Cal

Cutler- Vandy-SEC

Ryan- BC

Freeman- Kansas ST

Mike Vick- VT

Sanchez- USC

Cassell- USC

Palmer- USC

Campbell- Auburn

Brees- Purdue

Eli- Ole Miss

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The PAC 10 plays no defense. Thats why his stats are inflated. I think the biggest troubling stat is Oregons defense gave up 500+ yards 3 times, and Luck led his team to ZERO 2nd half points against them

Oregon's defense is the master of the takeaway. They take big risks trying to turn the ball over and often give up a big play when it fails. Their secondary is hard to play against and playing in Autzen is no joke.

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It is?

Manning - Tennessee

Brady- Michigan

Rodgers- Cal

Cutler- Vandy-SEC

Ryan- BC

Freeman- Kansas ST

Mike Vick- VT

Sanchez- USC

Cassell- USC

Palmer- USC

Campbell- Auburn

Brees- Purdue

Eli- Ole Miss

VT and BC are in the same conference as NC State. which the poster said was weaker than the Pac 10. USC and Cal are both in the Pac-10 which is the same as stanford. So by listing players consisting of majority Pac-10 and ACC players, you don't really make a point since those conferences were said to be weak in Strength of Schedule.

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VT and BC are in the same conference as NC State. which the poster said was weaker than the Pac 10. USC and Cal are both in the Pac-10 which is the same as stanford. So by listing players consisting of majority Pac-10 and ACC players, you don't really make a point since those conferences were said to be weak in Strength of Schedule.

So tell me, which conferences are good? And you cant judge the conference from the players I mentioned when they played in it, based off of this year, like everyone is doing.

And I've named more then just players from the ACC and PAC 10, why didn't you address that?

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add to the fact that is arm strength is just 'above average". isnt that what they said about jimmy?

Actually, he has excellent arm strength. It's one of the assets people talk about when evaluating him. I think you're misinterpreting them saying he doesn't have a cannon, with his arm strength is only average or a little above. The fact is that his arm strength is probably on par with Manning, Brady and most other top end QB's.

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1st round picks

JaWalrus Russell-LSU-SEC

Jason Campbell(semi bust)-Auburn-SEC

Rex Grossman(semi bust)-Florida-SEC

Tim Couch-Kentucky-SEC

Heath Shuler-Tennessee-SEC

2nd round picks

Chad Henne(semi-bust)-Big 10

Drew Stanton-Michigan State-Big 10

Quincy Carter-Georgia-SEC

Tony Banks-Michigan State-Big 10

Tony Sacca-Penn State-Big 10

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So tell me, which conferences are good? And you cant judge the conference from the players I mentioned when they played in it, based off of this year, like everyone is doing.

And I've named more then just players from the ACC and PAC 10, why didn't you address that?

Regardless, by listing all those players and their respective teams you didn't do them any justice either since the whole argument was strength of schedule and whatever conference they're in takes a huge part in their strength of schedule. in the SEC you see a lot of winning records, they win their nonconference games typically, whereas the ACC doesn't.

Their strength distributions also matter

the Pac-10, Big 10 and Big East are all top heavy. Once they've beaten the other 1 or 2 good teams, they're set for the year. there's also the lack of a championship game. You might not be seeing Oregon in the BCS Title if they had to play Stanford again.

the SEC and ACC and Big 12 have better distributions however the magnitude of the distributions aren't the same. It's tougher to win in these conferences. Could be an upset any week.

While the schedules and strengths of individual schools may not be the same year in and year out, the trends in the conferences are.

Actually i forgot what your point was compared to my point a while ago.. and i'm on too crappy of internet to open another tab and find out.. so i'm gonna just post this and hope it goes along with what i was supposed to be thinking.. for some reason i think i was just pointing out that the other guy was saying that the pac10 and acc are weak because he listed qbs from those conferences there and you brought up players from the same conferences saying they're strong so it's like, you can't really argue opinion using opinion.

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3 5 year seniors on that ol.so that might be your reason....

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The guy is their second leading rusher...he's as good a prospect as there has been in a decade

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Strength of conference is over-rated, IMO

Flacco played at Delaware

Roethlisberger played at Miami(Ohio)

Rivers played at NCState which is weaker than the PAC10

Favre played at SoMiss

Tom Brady couldn't beat out Drew Henson at Michigan

Joe Montana was primarily a backup

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