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Who had the most accurate scouting report on Clausen?


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#16 C47

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:10 PM

Technically, he's a vet in 3 days.

And well... he's looked pretty terrible, even for a Rookie.


This is the problem I have with the people who say that Jimmy will turn it around. Every rookie starting QB that has ever amounted to anything in the NFL has shown one thing from start to start......progression.... Even Troy Aikman who was dreadful his rookie year still showed progression from game to game. If anything Clausen has done the opposite from game to game. Outside of one half against Seattle where he made some decent throws the guy has gotten worse each game. People can say whatever they want about our o-line not giving him enough time, but there has been plenty of occasions where he has ample time and he still looks like a scared child in the pocket.....

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:11 PM

I would disagree about troy aikman showing progression from week to week in his first season. That is the worst comparison.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:14 PM

This is the problem I have with the people who say that Jimmy will turn it around. Every rookie starting QB that has ever amounted to anything in the NFL has shown one thing from start to start......progression.... Even Troy Aikman who was dreadful his rookie year still showed progression from game to game. If anything Clausen has done the opposite from game to game. Outside of one half against Seattle where he made some decent throws the guy has gotten worse each game. People can say whatever they want about our o-line not giving him enough time, but there has been plenty of occasions where he has ample time and he still looks like a scared child in the pocket.....


He has shown progression, but he's not going to turn into Brees overnight.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:14 PM

Technically, he's a vet in 3 days.

And well... he's looked pretty terrible, even for a Rookie.


as someone who thinks the Eagles run in the last 10 years has been medicore (when in fact they are the 4th best team in the league the last 10 years)... I'm not sure this is worth bringing up.... but

When you surround a rookie QB around the implosion that you saw by the entire team and coaches.. what exactly were you expecting to see from a ROOKIE qb?

I mean, he may be a complete bust.. but this year is hardly the determining factor.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:15 PM

I would disagree about troy aikman showing progression from week to week in his first season. That is the worst comparison.


He played terrible but he still showed flashes of being a good QB. Perhaps a better comparison would be Manning, he had poor stats but watching the guy you could just see it was a matter of time before he was an elite QB. From game to game he got better and showed more signs each week.....

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:16 PM

He has shown progression, but he's not going to turn into Brees overnight.


What progression has he shown. Exactly what have you seen from the kid that suggests we should pass on Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Ryan Mallet or Jake Locker.....

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:18 PM

lol @ clausen showing progression. I will agree though that he had nothing around him that worked until the later part of the season with the run game. He had a sack about every 9 pass attempts which proves how bad the OL was but could also prove how horrible he is in the pocket.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:20 PM

i think i texted husker the instant this pick came in and was going bonkers with how bad clausen was/is.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:21 PM

as someone who thinks the Eagles run in the last 10 years has been medicore (when in fact they are the 4th best team in the league the last 10 years)... I'm not sure this is worth bringing up.... but

When you surround a rookie QB around the implosion that you saw by the entire team and coaches.. what exactly were you expecting to see from him?


How about a passer rating in the 60s? Is that unreasonable?

I mean, even if he checks down on EVERY play because of pressure, the guy should have a better than 51% completion percentage.

Or how about hitting some open receivers when he does have time? Or throwing above the D-line's reach?

Yeah, some of this is learning, but some of it is either
1. Him not giving a poo.
2. Him really sucking.

Either way, he's not a leader, or he's a skill-less bust.

P.S. I like the snipe on the Eagles point. I'm sure their organization is just happy-go-lucky about winning all those Super Bowls in the past 10 years... oh wait...

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:22 PM

lol @ clausen showing progression. I will agree though that he had nothing around him that worked until the later part of the season with the run game. He had a sack about every 9 pass attempts which proves how bad the OL was but could also prove how horrible he is in the pocket.


Exactly Salty

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:22 PM

clausen's game vs. pittsburgh was one of the worst games i've seen an nfl qb since i've started watching football.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:25 PM

clausen's game vs. pittsburgh was one of the worst games i've seen an nfl qb since i've started watching football.


His second game against your Saints was pretty awesome to.....

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:32 PM

clausen's game vs. pittsburgh was one of the worst games i've seen an nfl qb since i've started watching football.


What?

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:41 PM

His second game against your Saints was pretty awesome to.....


besides a busted coverage i don't remember there being a pass over 15 yards.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:42 PM

if there is more than 3 posters on this board that think clausen is worth a damn I would be surprised.


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