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I never said he can't make more than one read. I just said he plays in a one read offense. That's not his fault. His college coach doesn't care if he develops into an NFL QB. He knows that if he runs the ball it's just as good for him as if he passes it, all he cares about is the W. He's not in the business of developing NFL players, he's in the business of winning games.

The original discussion was reasons why Cam shouldn't go #1 and this is one of them. It's not that he can't make reads, it's that he has to prove he can to GMs and Owners.

BlackCat posted this video and said "Look, Cam makes 3 reads on this play." I simply am making the point that this is not a good example of him making reads because he doesn't make any in this video, he throws to his primary guy. I started out playing devil's advocate in the other thread and gave BlackCat things GMs/Owners would look for with concern when evaluating Cam. He got defensive and it all went downhill from there for him.

Bottom line: I agree, just because Cam isn't asked to make multiple reads doesn't mean he can't... but like The Golden Calf of Bristol, I think you have to be concerned about using a high pick on a guy who hasn't been asked to do much of this because you don't know where the ceiling is on how much of it he can do.

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CAM NEWTON #1 OVERALL BABY!

Anyone who has seen him play more than one time, knows this. :yesnod:

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Anyone who has seen him play more than one time, knows this. :yesnod:

Actually it's been the opposite for me. I watched three of his games this year and I thought he was a good player... obviously is at the college level. A couple weeks ago I started watching and reading more about him, especially when it was clear we'd get the #1, we'd need a QB, and we had no idea if Luck would declare... which brought me to this:

Bottom line: I agree, just because Cam isn't asked to make multiple reads doesn't mean he can't... but like The Golden Calf of Bristol, I think you have to be concerned about using a high pick on a guy who hasn't been asked to do much of this because you don't know where the ceiling is on how much of it he can do.

This is my concern at this point in time. It's not that I doubt he has some raw potential or skill at the NFL level, but I don't know how you spend a #1 pick on someone who we really can't get a good read on his mechanics and passing tools that he brings to the NFL... Perhaps tonight will be different, but I doubt it.

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