So after one year of production for Rodgers, are you comfortable saying he isn't the "product of a system" while I do believe you have said recently that the system is more responsible for Brady's and Cassel's #s?
yes. i don't believe I ever said that Brady was a system QB, though I think a lot of Cassel's success can be attributed to a very friendly QB system. for example, with Rodgers and Cutler, both of them are very good at reading a defenses and hitting their second and third reads. Against Carolina for example, Rodgers was picking us apart in the pocket and they were getting decent pressure on him. They weren't just dump offs to Ryan Grant either; he was nailing Jennings and Driver 15, 20 yards down the field. He did that all year. The only reason he wasn't talked about more as having a great year is because of the person he replaced and the media's fascination with him.
Shanahan aside, Cutler is one of the best young QBs in the league. If you want to say he was just a product of that system, well, I can't really argue that since it's the only system he's been in, but I saw nothing from Jay that would suggest he couldn't thrive in the Patriots' Amoeba system that mcdaniels is doubtlessly going to install.
With Cassel, if you watch him play, he has horrible measurables, no pocket presence, likes to fumble, and generally just sticks to one guy. Anyone can hold the ball for 2 seconds then hit heath evans in the flat. A typical pass play is stare at Randy Moss until he gets open, if not dump it off to Wes Welker. That's the main reason I don't want the Panthers anywhere near the guy; we don't have the talent or the scheme to make him successful. Neither do the Vikings for that matter.
McCarthy and Shanny are offensive driven HCs who have gotten the max out of even average to subpar QBs like Brooks and Plummer
Aaron Brooks was actually a fairly effective QB before everyone realized how to play him. Plummer used to be great. Just because his career hit the shits in Denver doesn't mean he wasn't a pro bowl QB. I mean it's not like Shanahan turned Patrick Ramsey into a starter or anything.
and Smith is a defensive HC so it makes sense that their expectations of their QB would be a bit different.
Smith has nothing to do with Ryan. Mularkey, former head coach and brilliant offensive coordinator, was the only one who was even allowed near him.
Denver's and GBs run game struggled this past year and it was a part of why they were putting it up in the air so much.
They had a thousand yard rusher in GB and Brandon Jackson averaged 5.5 yards a pop. They threw so much because that's where the talent on the team is; at QB and WR. You can't really fault them for that, and it's not like Rodgers didn't live up to it.
Denver's offense this year was still one of the highest scoring until everything completely fell apart at the end.