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#49 JawnyBlaze

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 07:46 AM

Well, yea, it wasn't "#33 next year", I misspoke. It would have been worded "the Panthers' 2nd round pick" which is #33. Any other pick would be "the Panthers' second round pick via -pick's original owner-". The Patriots have our #33, no wiggle room or any room for interpretation.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:13 AM

USC Jurrell Casey
UNC Marvin Austin --second to third round, baggage, work ethic concerns
CLEM Jarvis Jenkins --third to 5th round in mocks. nice 2 gap dt
OSU Stephen Paea -- late first, early second. Could be ours if we trade down.
UNC Tydreke Powell --mocks I have seen have him very late
OLE MISS Jerrell Powe -rumored to be illiterate, still a big boy who should handle the 1 technique
LSU Drake Nevis--fast, a pass-rushing, smallish penetrator. Scared of him a little due to his size and the fact that he played vs. spread offenses. Second rounder.
BAYLOR Phil Taylor --350 pounds and will battle weight problems like Jenkins. 4th round or so
HAMP Kendrick Ellis --third round-5th round. A gamble as all Hampton players are. Big boy, will get a lot of looks from 3-4 people
ILL Corey Liuget --my personal favorite. second to third rounder.
....all DT with Day 1 talent. (first round?) I agree DT is deep, but none of these should go in the first, with the possibility of Paea.
In the fourth, a solid DT from Stanford--Sione Fua.
In the fifth or so, a unheralded DT from Auburn--Mike Blanc

This list shows how deep the position is. Several names are not on here as well, probably because they project to DE in a 3-4.

DT Richard Seymour
DT Barry Cofield
DT Barry Mebane
DT Aubrayo Franklin
DT Alan Branch
.....best DT FA imo.

Pick two of these jokers and draft Green, Rivera!!!!!


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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:27 AM

It's crazy to draft a receiver with the #1 overall because it rarely happens?

I'll tell something else that is rare. A draft with this little overall talent available, period.

Why is there such little home run options available?

Glad you asked! It is because so many underclassmen declared last draft due to the impending new CBA, that will have a rookie cap in place.

This is the weakest draft class in eons.
What is worse, there is no sure fire qb that is worth the #1 overall.

That leaves options like receiver, or defense.

And it could easily be argued no one in this draft class is worth #1 overall. Yet, some team still has to pick there. Right now, it is the panthers pick.

I'd much rather they draft the best receiver, dt, bpawhoever that may end up being on their board, than a qb that is another project.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:35 AM

#1 overall pick=BPA
position=irrelevant

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:41 AM

I do think the Panthers will choose Fairley #1 overall, but I am suprised most of you have discounted Bowers being selected. Although DE isn't one of the most pressing needs for us at the moment, Bowers is #1 overall on most draft boards for overall talent. When teams pass up talent for a positional need with a top #3 pick, they usually end up regretting their decision. Unless we trade down, we need to select the best overall player in the draft who will become an immediate contributor and future pro-bowler.

The top WR is more likely to be a bust than any other position:
Top WR's in last ten drafts
2001: (8) David Terrell
2002: (13) Donte Stallworth
2003: (2) Charles Rogers
2004: (3) Larry Fitzgerald
2005: (3) Braylon Edwards
2006: (25) Santonio Holmes
2007: (2) Calvin Johnson
2008: None taken in first round
2009: (7) Darius Heyward-Bey
2010: (22) Demarius Thomas

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:59 AM

I do think the Panthers will choose Fairley #1 overall, but I am suprised most of you have discounted Bowers being selected. Although DE isn't one of the most pressing needs for us at the moment, Bowers is #1 overall on most draft boards for overall talent. When teams pass up talent for a positional need with a top #3 pick, they usually end up regretting their decision. Unless we trade down, we need to select the best overall player in the draft who will become an immediate contributor and future pro-bowler.

The top WR is more likely to be a bust than any other position:
Top WR's in last ten drafts
2001: (8) David Terrell
2002: (13) Donte Stallworth
2003: (2) Charles Rogers
2004: (3) Larry Fitzgerald
2005: (3) Braylon Edwards
2006: (25) Santonio Holmes
2007: (2) Calvin Johnson
2008: None taken in first round
2009: (7) Darius Heyward-Bey
2010: (22) Demarius Thomas


I think the Bengals would really like Bowers, but they have many needs. I would, however, trade down 4 spots with them for their first round pick next year, a pick that would increase our chances of landing Luck. This to keep Buffalo from taking him or someone trading up to get him.

I am guessing that Denver would take Peterson, Buffalo would take Fairley (but there is supposed to be some interest in Quinn), and we would be left with a choice between Dareus and Green in the worst case scenario. THe risk? The bengals need a WR also. IF they take Green, then Denver could take Peterson and Buffalo grabs Fairley, leaving the Panthers with only Dareus or Amukamara--still not bad.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 09:05 AM

In your scenario, if we were able to trade with the Bengals and they took Green, Denver takes Peterson, and Buffalo takes Fairley, that leaves Bowers that could be taken by us. I'm not saying we should draft him (cuz we're sitting alright at DE), but I think you'd have to consider him BPA over Dareus (lotta people are saying 3-4 DE) or Amukamara.

IF they take Green, then Denver could take Peterson and Buffalo grabs Fairley, leaving the Panthers with only Dareus or Amukamara--still not bad.